In a message dated 5/11/05 7:15:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, totototo@pacificcoast.net writes: > the real 'King Alfred' was long ago supplanted in commerce by other > cultivars of similar appearance. > All ~ This has long been true but is changing. Because of this emphasis on KA by so many daffodil suppliers (who are never out of anything and substitute at will), a few bulbs of the genuine thing have become available from specialist suppliers. I have a few bulbs of this, the flowers from which I will sometimes bench at shows just to display to visitors what the real thing looks like. These have come from very old plantings on property that has been in the same family for generations so there is very little likelihood that they aren't what they purport to be. The commonest substitutes for 'King Alfred' are 'Dutch Master' and 'Unsurpassable.' Too, there has grown in recent years a very real interest in historical plants -- and daffodils are no exception -- to the point where many of these really old ones are finding themselves back in demand, once again. I guess it's like the three button suit -- if you hang on to it long enough, it periodically comes back into fashion again! Best, Dave Karnstedt Cascade Daffodils Silverton, OR email: davekarn@aol.com Cool Mediterranean climate -- wet and cool/cold in winter and hot and dry in summer.