Hi, As more and more people look to the PBS wiki as an authority I find it a bit of a challenge knowing which names we should be using to identify our plants. In the past I've heard people complain about all the incorrect information that can be found on the Internet and am much more sympathetic. We have discussed before that many of us are gardeners, not taxonomists and we know the plants by the names that were attached to them when we acquired them. Since there is not agreement even among the experts and there are constant changes, some accepted and some not, even if you have a set of reference books you trust, it is not simple. With that background I'd like to share with you some questions I sent to Jane McGary, Arnold Trachtenberg, and John Lonsdale. We have Colchicum pictures from the three of them that I am puzzled about. Jane has said I could share her answers with the group. She writes: "Mary Sue had a number of questions about nomenclature in Colchicum. My understanding is that this genus is presently undergoing a rather massive revision. A number of new species have been named by Karen Persson (not sure of spelling of her name), and I heard a couple of years ago that Christopher Brickell was planning a monograph. Thus, it's not likely that we can put "real" names on all the photos that are on the wiki. I'd suggest that most of them be left with the names the contributors have for them, with remarks added that nomenclature of a given species, or complex, is presently under study, and that names are much confused in cultivation." There are still a few questions I need help with and I thought some of you might find Jane and Arnold's answers interesting so I am including them. The answer is from Jane unless indicated otherwise. If any of you can help with this I'd appreciate it. 1. We have two pictures, one from Jane and one from John of C. boissieri. We also have a picture from Arnold of C. procurrens that some of my sources say is a synonym for this. Should Arnold's picture be renamed and put with the others? ANSWER : The plants that I'm growing under these two names appear distinct to me, though they have obvious similarities such as a peculiar corm shape. Arnold may have received C. procurrens from me. Could either of you provide text to explain about C. procurrens? 2. We have a number of pictures of Colchicum cupanii and subspecies of the same. I can't find much about these subspecies. Can you provide any information? Should we list the pictures of C. cupanii ssp. glossophyllum under C. cupanii or C. glossophyllum? ANSWER : This is one of the really confusing groups. I would keep these two separate for now. In particular, the name C. cupanii seems to be applied in cultivation to two very different plants, both of which I'm growing. What I have as C. glossophyllum is distinct from either in its flowering time, if not in other particulars. Brickell (in the AGS Encyclopaedia of Alpines) regards glossophyllum as a subspecies of cupanii. As an example of how people use our wiki I found this: http://maltawildplants.com/CLCH/… This man discusses Jane's picture and even links to it. 3. Colchicum major I can't find, but I can find Colchicum autumnale 'Major'. Is there a species major or is this a cultivar of another species and should be moved? ANSWER: I haven't seen this as a valid name anywhere. The pictured plant could be C. autumnale, which is described as "occasionally tessellated." Anyone else know of a C. major or think that Arnold's picture is of Colchicum autumnale 'Major'? 4. Colchicum pannonicum has a note written next to it by Jim McKenney I suspect saying that this plant is now regarded as a clonal selection of C. autumnale and has the cultivar name 'Nancy Lindsay'. Should we change it or is that note sufficient? ANSWER: I would leave the note, because apparently there are several of these purple-tubed C. autumnale forms around, and I'm told the form is common in the wild in certain areas. Probably not all such plants are the clone 'Nancy Lindsay', though many of them probably are. From Arnold: "C. pannonicum named for Pannonia which is an ancient name for what is now part Hungary. Mathew say in his Bulb Newsletter that it is "so similar that they could be part of the same clone as 'Nancy Lindsay'. He also says it is a 'plant very much like C. autumnale' Chris Brickell, in his account of Colchicum for Flora Europaea, decided to sink the species into C. autumanale. Mathew says " So, unless new field studies of the colchicums in this area indicate otherwise, the situation is that the excellent plant which is being distributed as C. pannonicum appears to be a very nice color variant of the very widespread C. autumnale." 5. Colchicum sibthorpii my sources say should be C. bivonae. Would you look at Arnold's pictures and let me know if they need to be renamed. No answer to this last question. Can anyone help? Mary Sue