From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> > Lee mentioned Lilium philippinense. > > Can anyone confirm that this species is in cultivation? Certainly - I grow it and I'm not alone. My current batch of seedlings is from South African-grown seed and a previous lot came from Australia (the bulbs of these died & I hadn't saved seed). I know that true L. philippinense is also grown by other English gardeners, having seen it in other gardens. It is very distinct, with a tremendously long, narrow, pure white tube and relatively narrow 'face' to the open flower: L. formosanum has a shorter tube, usually stained reddish-pinkish-brown and the flower opens more widely. The plant body of L. philippinense is different in appearing a much greener colour - it lacks the red pigments that stain the growth of L. formosanum et al. John Grimshaw Dr John M. Grimshaw Garden Manager, Colesbourne Gardens Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Nr Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP Website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/