Not a single seed of my last lot of Moraea came up Extremely disappointed Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36/> ________________________________ From: pbs <pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 11:38:10 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 170, Issue 1 Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Today's Topics: 1. Re: Lycoris misc - Found (Tim Chapman) 2. Alstroemeria seed (Rodger Whitlock) 3. Re: Alstroemeria seed (Diane Whitehead) 4. Rhodophiala bifida (Anita Roselle) 5. Re: Alstroemeria seed (Diane Whitehead) 6. Re: Moraea tortillis bulbs (Peter Taggart) 7. Oxalis tetraphylla/deppei seed (Bill Whitson) 8. South African Symposium (Rachel Saunders) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 12:38:48 -0600 From: Tim Chapman <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris misc - Found Message-ID: <D7CB19E0-7338-423F-9957-AFC35251DA87@gingerwoodnursery.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Tony Avent <Tony@plantdelights.com> wrote: > > Jim; > > Sounds like a great discussion in which I?m sure we?ll all learn something new. To begin, there seems to be as many definitions of species than there are taxonomists? This sums up one of the biggest issues in taxonomy as there is no strict definition or guideline of "species." Ploidy levels and sterility are handled differently. Some taxonomists still hold on to the concept of giving every accession its on variety name based on minor differences while others choose to just expand the description of the species. Even with the newer DNA sequencing technology on the horizon these issues will still exist. On a side : Tony Avent, the true L shaanxiensis is in the US..at least one bulb is. I can give you a contact, but it's a private collector who might have an extra one or two only. It's occasionally listed on one of the Chinese language auction sites (no not the same people offering glow in the dark green ones with free rainbow roses on EBay ). From what I was told it's very rare there and not easily available. You have stuff he's looking for though :) Tim Chapman ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 11:19:27 -0800 From: Rodger Whitlock <totototo@telus.net> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Alstroemeria seed Message-ID: <58B5CD3F.1000600@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed The RHS journal, "The Garden", had a squib many years ago on work done at Kew regarding germination of Alstroemeria that is worth tracking down. It would be in the 1980s or 1990s, but I can't give a more precise citation without burrowing through the journal issues one by one. IIRC, it involved dissecting out part of the seed body that conceals the embryo, then stratification in more than one stage, but my memory isn't good enough to cough up all the details with accuracy. If someone finds this article, would the RHS allow the PBS to include the text on its wiki? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 12:03:56 -0800 From: Diane Whitehead <ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Alstroemeria seed Message-ID: <98E2F199-0DE1-4EE1-A97B-C105427D9751@islandnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Martyn Rix's April 2003 RHS article "New Treasures of the Incas", about Alstroemeria and Bomarea species, gives advice about growing from seed, but does not refer back to the Kew article. Diane Whitehead ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:49:48 -0500 From: Anita Roselle <anitaroselle@gmail.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: [pbs] Rhodophiala bifida Message-ID: <CAChZ1vYRRfN_FQEQzs=DQuZFfGv+wn--4-YDFhnWzOiWnwW6iA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I am a newbe to the forum, have not posted before. I hope I am at the right address. I purchased Rhodophiala bifida seed from the seed offerings, I planted them in a mix of Faffard potting soil with added sand. The pot was put in my greenhouse, intermediate temps. and I now have about 9 shoots coming up that are about 2" tall at this point and very skinny. I need to know what I need to do with them right now, I think it is too cold to put them outside. Do they need very bright sun, part shade ect? When do I transplant them to individual pots and that sort of information. I am a retired perennial propagator but have never done much with bulb seed. Your help will be very much appreciated. I live on the border between Zones 6B and 7A. I believe that this is the plant that I have seen in a yard near here, it looked like a red amaryllis with a white stripe down the middle of each petal. Before I could ask if I could have a bit of it the house was sold and the new owner tore them all out and probably threw them in the trash. I hope this is what they were and I can hopefully establish them in my garden, if I can find the right microclimate for them. I am anxious to try some of the hardy Lycoris, there is a single L. radiata down the road and I have a patch of what I believe are L.squamiera. Any help or suggestions you can give will be very much appreciated. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:09:44 -0800 From: Diane Whitehead <ldiane.whitehead@gmail.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Alstroemeria seed Message-ID: <B2B5A160-4457-4B58-A41A-AEC56023A33D@islandnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I do not have the 1978 RHS journal with the article. The Garden, vol 103 p 75 Germination of Alstroemerias, Dr P.A. Thompson and P. Newman They published in a couple of other places, so if you can access jstor you will be able to read online. THOMPSON PA, P NEWMAN & PD KEEFE (1979) Germination of species of Alstroemeria L. Gartenbauwissenschaft 44: 97-102. Diane Whitehead ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 08:11:06 +0000 From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea tortillis bulbs Message-ID: <CAELwaKh4K-o1STQOyoRsvZ0upsmbi0Y9Ne9WB2EfqqV8h-zBWQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Try the South African Bulb Company, Dawie Human - Lifestyle seeds, or Gordon Summerfield. On 28 February 2017 at 15:50, Jim Foster <fosterjp@cox.net> wrote: > Does anyone know where I might buy one of these? I could not find sources > on the web other than seed. > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 22:33:14 -0800 From: Bill Whitson <billspamcan@gmail.com> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [pbs] Oxalis tetraphylla/deppei seed Message-ID: <CABaO2Pn0rfG-43D+ygP4w8KagUDCY32KPRizdouAT6VbM8tgnQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi. I'm new to the list and enjoying it a lot. Does anyone out there know of a source for O. tetraphylla seed? Or, alternatively, a variety that has a non-brevistylous flower? (The commonly available species type, 'Iron Cross', and 'Reverse Iron Cross' unfortunately all have the same flower type, which makes them incompatible.) I've been hoping to do some breeding with this species, but need to get at least one variety with a different flower morph in order to kick off sexual reproduction. Thanks! Bill ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 14:30:02 +0200 From: "Rachel Saunders" <silverhill@yebo.co.za> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: [pbs] South African Symposium Message-ID: <01c301d29419$e4a94f00$adfbed00$@yebo.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In August 2017, IBSA (the Indigenous Bulb Association of South Africa) is holding a 3 day symposium at Goudini, close to Cape Town. If anyone is interested in attending, please contact me for details. Thanks. Regards Rachel Saunders Silverhill Seeds and Books P O Box 53108 Kenilworth 7745 Cape Town Tel: +27 21 762 4245 Fax: +27 21 797 6609 ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php ------------------------------ End of pbs Digest, Vol 170, Issue 1 ***********************************