WAS - prohibited plants; NOW Who makes up these lists?

WAS - prohibited plants; NOW Who makes up these lists?
Erik Van Lennep (Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:20:34 PDT)

James, are you in a citrus growing area? If so, they have probably listed
Poncirus as a threat because they would have written a blanket ban for all
members of the Rutacae family due to possibility of introducing virus,
rusts and other diseases.

I didn't realize things were so closely monitored in Texas! I guess you
aren't big enough to write your own rules. If you were Monsanto, Cargill,
Syngenta, or the like you could introduce whatever you like with impunity.
Sad about Poncirus. It has such interesting possibilities for citrus
breeding.

erik

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On 21 March 2017 at 13:06, James Frelichowski via pbs <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org

wrote:

I had an officer come and take my ponciris trifoliate that I got from ebay
(and I asked seller first if it was ok to receive). But then we have
pythons and now at least one cobra running amuck in Florida.Go figure.
James FrelichowskiCollege Station, TX

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:58 AM, Erik Van Lennep <
erik@tepuidesign.com> wrote:

The official list used for legislation and prohibition in Spain actually
includes some native plants! It looks like the work of a desktop researcher
graduate student who cobbled together a somewhat random list of plants
declared invasive across wildly varying geographies and habitats...probably
those originally published in Spanish, many of which resulted from the
"work" of others cutting and pasting.

Thus native Catalan and Iberian species which were listed as problematic in
Argentina are now forbidden for planting in their own country of origin.

The world is insane.

erik

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On 20 March 2017 at 23:25, James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> wrote:

Dear Friends
These list are almost always ridiculous becuase they are made up
by elected or volunteer plant lovers who are neither botanists,

ecologists,

taxonomists or any kind of scientist. They wouldn't know a Dandelion

from

an Endive in many cases.

These list come together from rumors and newspapers of fabulous
tales of some rare plant ‘taking over’ their back yard.

Go to one of the state ‘Native Plant Facebook lists” and be
amazed at the utter lack of knoweldge most people have about any plants

and

especially about what is “native”, ‘invasive”, “endangered” etc.

It is unfortunate when any local or state entity gives these
imaginary lists some official status without any kid of scientiifc or
botanical review. Happens all the time.

The proverbial ‘Grain of salt’ is needed big time when looking at
these list, but some are hilariously wrong. Just don’t count on
the lists as scientific fact. Jim W.

On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Garak <garak@code-garak.de> wrote:

at least Germany seems not hysterical about forbidden plants - for us

it's

mostly about the classical drugs - only trouble about that: it's actually
quite difficult to get rid of Papaver somniferum in some areas, as many
gardeners allow it for the pretty flowers and rather beautiful seed

heads -

and try to keep that seedmonster under control if both neighbors have it
seeding freely...

there is a EU list of 37 "unwanted" species, plants and animals, which
definitely is not present in the awareness of the public, with the most
known and obvious plant candidates would be once again 2 Heracleums,
Eichornia Crassipes and, surprise, Kudzu. Most interesting for the List
should be Lysichiton americanus. I have no idea if this is enforced in

any

way - I guess the racoons on the animal side of the list would choke to
death from laughing at the idea anyone could get rid of them...

--
Martin
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Likely zone 7a

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