Hi Jim: The Lycoris is a great example. I am not aware of any Lycoris that have escaped from cultivation and naturalized in natural areas either in the USA or overseas. That would be a 'plus' in the evaluation model. Since it is rare and little known, there may be other questions on the evaluation in which it doesn't rank so well but until we see the final evaluation form questions and know about the specifics of the biology of the species there is no way to predict if it would be accepted for entry or not. Boyce Tankersley Director of Living Plant Documentation Chicago Botanic Garden 1000 Lake Cook Road Glencoe, IL 60022 tel: 847-835-6841 fax: 847-835-1635 email: btankers@chicagobotanic.org -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of James Waddick Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 9:59 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Fwd: Establishing taxa as "present" Friends, It seems to me there may be quite a few 'collection holders'. that grow a lot of specialty plants that may not show up on many commercial or seed list, but are still circulated and 'present'. I think of my own fairly large number of Lycoris and others with similar esoteric species and selections of Hippeastrum, Gethyllis, Nerine and more. In the perennial area there are even more. Within Lycoris as a poor example, all the species have been grown in the US except for 1 rare obscure species. Even if all the grown species are given the OK, how could any reasonable list exclude the last rare species if it ever were to come into cultivation? Shouldn't the entire genus get approval.? If 20 of 21 species are "present", what is the chance that one unknown will be the one that is invasive? I am sure the same must be true of numerous other at the genus level and possibly at the Family level. Are there any weedy carnivorous plants? Weedy Tecophiliaceae. ? etc. Thinking about this as another heavy hand of the government. Will it make any sense? Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F + _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/