I am very familiar with Impatiens tinctoria both in cultivation and the wild and think it's a fabulous plant. If you don't know it, it's a big herbaceous perennial, with large fleshy tuberous roots, easily getting to 2 m in a season if amply wet, and where frost-free its fleshy stems survive for some time and can become almost woody. I have seen it up to 3 m + in the wild. The leaves are largish, ovate-lanceolate, dark green, and the flowers hang over them like big white butterflies. The flowers are principally formed of two large white lower petals, marked with red in their centre, and have a long spur at the back. They are strongly scented, particularly in the evening, and are evidently moth-pollinated. I think that I've mentioned before that I believe it forms part of a pollination syndrome with Gladiolus callianthus. The weather has been so foul this year that we haven't had much opportunity to sit out by the pond in an evening and enjoy its scent, but this is a feature that makes it well worth growing. In the wild it grows in wet places in the mountains of East Africa, from Ethiopia south to southern Tanzania, with various subspecies varying principally on the size of the flower, spur length etc, and with some geographical distinctions (see Grey-Wilson, 'Impatiens of Africa', 1980). Despite searching for it elsewhere, I have seen it only in Kenya, in the Cherangani Hills and on Mt Kenya, both times growing in and at the edge of running water in open forest conditions. This is not a plant that likes heat or drought! In Kenya it is represented by subsp. elegantissima, and I believe that this is the only subspecies in cultivation. So far as I know, most material in (at least British) gardens derives from a collection made by an expedition to Mt Elgon and Rwenzori on which Patrick Synge was a member - in 1930, I think. Thereabouts, anyway. He wrote a book about it ('Mountains of the Moon', 1938, but reprinted) that is well worth reading. I. tinctoria can be treated as a hardy perennial in British gardens at present, with no special attention needed, though I usually insulate the crown with some cut-down fern and soil on top - but that is perhaps just a legacy of when we had colder winters and it may not be so necessary now. I do think, however, that one has to strike a balance between its requirement for moisture in summer and not getting the roots too wet in winter, so I grow it in juicy soil adjacent to the pond, rather than in the boggiest areas. In a dry, hot year it can look a bit scraggy, but soon recovers with autumnal coolness and moisture. All growth above ground is killed by frost, but it reappears vigorously in spring. There is usually a crop of flowers in about June, followed by a lull in the heat of summer, then a magnificent show through September and October. This year, however, it has flowered constantly, as there has been no heat to put it off. In my experience there are very few Impatiens that like heat - commercial I. walleriana's tolerance of it is probably in part a result of selection, though as a wild plant it grows at lowish altitudes - and the montane African species hate it. I. tinctoria very seldom sets good seed here and I've never seen a self-sown seedling (one of very few non-prolific Impatiens in my garden), but in Cape Town a cutting from my original plant is prolific with seedlings. It is easily propagated from cuttings, but these should have a heel for best chance of success, and be taken in plenty of time for the plant to make a tuber before winter. Spring cuttings from the emerging shoots, taken as one would a Dahlia cutting, are very successful. Ernie DeMarie mentioned its relative, I. flanaganae from the coast of the Eastern Cape, which has lovely pink flowers on a lower plant. This survives outdoors here as tubers, but doesn't make a good plant: I think this does need a bit more warmth to get it growing. A third member of the clan is I. rothii, from Ethiopia, with smaller, salmony-pink flowers on a thick bush, also growing from thick tubers. It has surprised me by being fully hardy here since 2004, unprotected in the open border and just getting bigger and better every year. Originally only two seedlings germinated: one went to the National Collection holder and I kept the other. Now it self-sows like mad and I have to weed out seedlings - as I do for most species! To conclude this brief account of the group I should mention that there is also I. polhillii from southern Tanzania, with white flowers - I've never seen this - and I. fischeri from Kenyan forests with comparatively small, bright blood-red flowers, which I have lost, unfortunately. There are a number of hardy perennial Impatiens from Asian forests, but I. namchabarwensis is an annual with lovely flowers but terrible self-sowing capacity. I weed it out in barrowloads. John Grimshaw Dr John M. Grimshaw Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Nr Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP Tel. 01242 870567 ----- Original Message ----- From: <bonaventure@optonline.net> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:17 PM Subject: [pbs] Impatiens tinctoria > Can anyone on this list kindly share their experiences with Impatiens > tinctoria, a plant that I again will order from Annie's Annuals and try to > keep alive this time. > > Bonaventure Magrys > New Jersey > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 17/08/2008 > 12:58 > >