In my researches on Lilium it is clear that many societies used, and some still do, both Lilium and Cardiocrinum bulbs as a food resource, for some they are a major source of starch. The Ainu of northern Japan use Cardiocrinum cordite as a starch component for dumplings. Tibetan peasants plant lily bulbs of certain species into the turf of their roofs as a secure resource protected from animal digging in times of famine. Lilies were, and may still be, used in parts of South Eastern Europe as a vegetable. One or two species have been noted as being poisonous and I hope to include information on this in my lily book in due course. Sorry no I don't have any recipes ! Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:21 PM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 30 > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Tecophilaea from seed (Rogan Roth) > 2. Re: Bulbs and corms as food source... (P. C. Andrews) > 3. Hippeastrum seeds (Ton Wijnen) > 4. Re: Tecophilaea from seed (Roy Herold) > 5. Re: x 'Boopharyllis' pollen sterility? (Kelly Irvin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:59:42 +0200 > From: "Rogan Roth" <Roth@ukzn.ac.za> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Tecophilaea from seed > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <48AE7139.2298.0024.0@ukzn.ac.za> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > Hello Roger, > >>>>I also understand that seedling tecophilaea is extremely slow to reach > maturity. This implies that they need careful handling for some years.<<< > > On the contrary, I have found Tecophilaea to be extremely easy from seed. > My seedlings are planted in a 25:75 mixture of coarse river sand and > composted fir bark and are growing in a sunny position with some afternoon > shade - I feed and water regularly. After two seasons of growth my > seedlings are between two and three inches tall. > > Good luck! > > Rogan. > > Please find our Email Disclaimer here: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:53:49 -0400 > From: "P. C. Andrews" <pcamusa@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs and corms as food source... > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <BAY108-W63A5B574F15764B274E91B76A0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I rather enjoyed the acronym also. I kept thinking Unidentified > Subterranean Objects- like digging in parts of my garden. > Thanks for including the list! > It includes quite a few plants I would have considered poisonous or > borderline poisonous. They must have considered "medicinal" plants to be > fair game. > Regards, > Phil > >> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:51:33 -0700 >> From: wpoulsen@pacbell.net >> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs and corms as food source... >> >> So should we now use their acronym 'USO' instead of 'geophyte'? [USO = >> Underground Storage Organs] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. > http://windowslive.com/connect/… > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:14:33 -0700 > From: Ton Wijnen <ton1.wijnen@planet.nl>(by way of Mary Sue Ittner > <msittner@mcn.org>) > Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum seeds > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20080822071230.037119f0@mail.mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hallo > > I am searching a few seeds or a little bulb of the Hippeastrum > fragrantissimum and Hippeastrum brasillianum. > Who can help me?? > > Thank you very much. > > Kind regards > > Ton Wijnen > Holland > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:38:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: Roy Herold <rherold@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Tecophilaea from seed > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <460705.80939.qm@web62403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I, too, had some seeds result from my pollen dabbing last spring, on both > the regular and leichtlinii types. I was also encouraged to find an offset > on one of the corms when repotting last month. Is it normal to see this > sort of increase? They seemed to like Rodger's soil recommendation of > mostly grit and sand. > > For cold climates such as mine where the seed pots would be in a cool > greenhouse for the winter, should the seeds be planted now or wait until > spring? I'm guessing the former, but I don't want them to sulk and rot > during the long winter if they don't come up quickly. What would be the > typical germination time for 70f days and 50f nights? > > --Roy > NW of Boston > Starting to plant all those other seeds... > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:07:54 -0500 > From: Kelly Irvin <kellso@irvincentral.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] x 'Boopharyllis' pollen sterility? > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <48AED64A.6050200@irvincentral.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Ken: > > I'm awestruck! Very interesting and beautiful. Are you saying that all > the progeny are sterile, or just the one that looks very similar to A. > belladonna in flower structure? I find your last link to be quite > different from the other specimen. Seems strange the forms would be so > different, and I would more expect the last form than the first. I'm > assuming, with such an exposed bulb, this would be a tender hybrid? > > Mr. Kelly M. Irvin > 10850 Hodge Ln > Gravette, AR 72736 > USA > 479-787-9958 > USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b > > http://www.irvincentral.com/ > > > > Ken wrote: >> I have a question for the experts .... these crosses between >> Boophone disticha (seed parent) and Amaryllis belladonna (pollen parent) >> seem to be sterile as it appears again this year the ovaries/pods which >> swell are full of nothing but air. I have had a total of 8 scapes this >> year and nothing ... yet. >> >> Could the pollen off this hybrid be fertile? >> >> I've been brushing its pollen on hybrid A.belladonnas (with Brunsvigia >> heritage) and it appears seed is developing. I also did this last year >> and a lot of seed developed which seemed a bit larger than normal >> A.belladonna seed, but germinated well and otherwise look like normal >> A.belladonna seedlings. >> >> Here are a couple links to shots of this x'Boopharyllis' ... >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2718943764/ >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2713270134/ >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2742635323/ >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2755219211/ >> >> Ken >> San Diego >> zone 10 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 30 > *********************************** -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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