Bulbs as a food resource
iain@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org (Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:54:03 PDT)

In my researches on Lilium it is clear that many societies used, and some
still do, both Lilium and Cardiocrinum bulbs as a food resource, for some
they are a major source of starch.

The Ainu of northern Japan use Cardiocrinum cordite as a starch component
for dumplings. Tibetan peasants plant lily bulbs of certain species into the
turf of their roofs as a secure resource protected from animal digging in
times of famine. Lilies were, and may still be, used in parts of South
Eastern Europe as a vegetable. One or two species have been noted as being
poisonous and I hope to include information on this in my lily book in due
course. Sorry no I don't have any recipes !

Iain

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1. Re: Tecophilaea from seed (Rogan Roth)
2. Re: Bulbs and corms as food source... (P. C. Andrews)
3. Hippeastrum seeds (Ton Wijnen)
4. Re: Tecophilaea from seed (Roy Herold)
5. Re: x 'Boopharyllis' pollen sterility? (Kelly Irvin)

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:59:42 +0200
From: "Rogan Roth" <Roth@ukzn.ac.za>
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Hello Roger,

I also understand that seedling tecophilaea is extremely slow to reach

maturity. This implies that they need careful handling for some years.<<<

On the contrary, I have found Tecophilaea to be extremely easy from seed.
My seedlings are planted in a 25:75 mixture of coarse river sand and
composted fir bark and are growing in a sunny position with some afternoon
shade - I feed and water regularly. After two seasons of growth my
seedlings are between two and three inches tall.

Good luck!

Rogan.

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:53:49 -0400
From: "P. C. Andrews" <pcamusa@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs and corms as food source...
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I rather enjoyed the acronym also. I kept thinking Unidentified
Subterranean Objects- like digging in parts of my garden.
Thanks for including the list!
It includes quite a few plants I would have considered poisonous or
borderline poisonous. They must have considered "medicinal" plants to be
fair game.
Regards,
Phil

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:51:33 -0700
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Bulbs and corms as food source...

So should we now use their acronym 'USO' instead of 'geophyte'? [USO =
Underground Storage Organs]

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:14:33 -0700
From: Ton Wijnen <ton1.wijnen@planet.nl>(by way of Mary Sue Ittner
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Subject: [pbs] Hippeastrum seeds
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Hallo

I am searching a few seeds or a little bulb of the Hippeastrum
fragrantissimum and Hippeastrum brasillianum.
Who can help me??

Thank you very much.

Kind regards

Ton Wijnen
Holland

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roy Herold <rherold@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Tecophilaea from seed
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I, too, had some seeds result from my pollen dabbing last spring, on both
the regular and leichtlinii types. I was also encouraged to find an offset
on one of the corms when repotting last month. Is it normal to see this
sort of increase? They seemed to like Rodger's soil recommendation of
mostly grit and sand.

For cold climates such as mine where the seed pots would be in a cool
greenhouse for the winter, should the seeds be planted now or wait until
spring? I'm guessing the former, but I don't want them to sulk and rot
during the long winter if they don't come up quickly. What would be the
typical germination time for 70f days and 50f nights?

--Roy
NW of Boston
Starting to plant all those other seeds...

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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:07:54 -0500
From: Kelly Irvin <kellso@irvincentral.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] x 'Boopharyllis' pollen sterility?
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Ken:

I'm awestruck! Very interesting and beautiful. Are you saying that all
the progeny are sterile, or just the one that looks very similar to A.
belladonna in flower structure? I find your last link to be quite
different from the other specimen. Seems strange the forms would be so
different, and I would more expect the last form than the first. I'm
assuming, with such an exposed bulb, this would be a tender hybrid?

Mr. Kelly M. Irvin
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Ken wrote:

I have a question for the experts .... these crosses between
Boophone disticha (seed parent) and Amaryllis belladonna (pollen parent)
seem to be sterile as it appears again this year the ovaries/pods which
swell are full of nothing but air. I have had a total of 8 scapes this
year and nothing ... yet.

Could the pollen off this hybrid be fertile?

I've been brushing its pollen on hybrid A.belladonnas (with Brunsvigia
heritage) and it appears seed is developing. I also did this last year
and a lot of seed developed which seemed a bit larger than normal
A.belladonna seed, but germinated well and otherwise look like normal
A.belladonna seedlings.

Here are a couple links to shots of this x'Boopharyllis' ...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2718943764/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2713270134/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2742635323/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/amarguy/2755219211/

Ken
San Diego
zone 10

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