Rodger: I had found on the net that Van Bloem appears to be marketing them through retailers, but I have not seen it around here during the fall. I will look harder this season. Thanks for the heads up. I did finally today, using Ask.com, find glasshouseworks.com to be offering it. I know nothing about this company, and they are charging twice as much as they should, but, hey, I really want it bad. Maybe it's in a pot, instead of dormant. Mr. Kelly M. Irvin 10850 Hodge Ln Gravette, AR 72736 USA 479-787-9958 USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b http://www.irvincentral.com/ totototo@telus.net wrote: > I'm quite certain that Scarlet Baby has been available from local garden > centers within the last two years. Origin at one of the usual wholesale dealers. > > So have hope! It's not out of cultivation. >