Thank you Arnold & Mary Sue, stearage to sources and comments hugely appreciated, another day and more to learn. I do feel a bit "thick" sometimes so thank you both. Iain ----- Original Message ----- From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9 > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Scilla forcing (Patrick Troy) > 2. Re: Narcissus fly (iain@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org) > 3. Re: Narcissus fly (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 4. Re: Narcissus fly (Mary Sue Ittner) > 5. "The Bulb Garden" (Uli Urban) > 6. Re: Narcissus fly (Jane McGary) > 7. Re: Oxalis rubra - white form ? (Ron Vanderhoff) > 8. Re: Narcissus fly - organic control? (Kelly Irvin) > 9. Kniphofia collectors (Martin Tversted) > 10. Scilla peruviana and searching the archives (Mary Sue Ittner) > 11. Re: Narcissus fly - organic control? (Jane McGary) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 12:22:28 -0700 (PDT) > From: Patrick Troy <benechin@yahoo.com> > Subject: [pbs] Scilla forcing > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <64686.24386.qm@web90608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Has anyone much experience with SCilla peruviana forcing. I have a mostly > white and blue colelction of the compact types with corymb heads that > flower reliably in February in California. For some reason this year I've > had poorer flowering results. Does anyone have references I could read on > this? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:40:50 +0100 > From: "iain@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org" > <info@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus fly > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <004c01c8f98e$aa20aec0$0201a8c0@homepc> > Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type="original" > > Narcissus Fly is not, thankfully, a beastie we need to concern ourselves > with here across our part of the pond but I would be interested to learn > if > anyone can tell me whether this insect has an infestation presence on > Lilium, etc. > > I would also be grateful to know what this insect's scientific name is, it > surely must have one. Common names per se do not 'travel' well, perhaps we > know and experience it under a different name. Given that the genus > Narcissus is not indigenous to north America I wonder how it arrived there > should originate here in Europe, southern Europe to be more precise. Has > it > any relationship for over winter survival in terms low temperatures of > your > USDA's hardiness zones? > > Iain > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:21 PM > Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 8 > > >> Send pbs mailing list submissions to >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." >> >> >> List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Lycoris report - 1 (James Waddick) >> 2. Crinums (James Waddick) >> 3. Re: "The Bulb Garden" (Laura & Dave) >> 4. Narcissus Fly: When is it safe? (Roy Herold) >> 5. Re: Narcissus Fly: When is it safe? (Mark Mazer) >> 6. Re: Oxalis rubra - white form ? (Diana Chapman) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:06:21 -0500 >> From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> >> Subject: [pbs] Lycoris report - 1 >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <p0624081cc4bf90867d33@[192.168.1.101]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >> >> Dear Friends, >> With all the reports about Lycoris blooming - it is the season. >> Just starting here too with L. squamigera leading the pack. >> We had a lot of rain this spring - way over the average and I think >> this has bulked up the bulbs as we are getting multiple stems per >> bulb and very tall stalks. >> >> I have a few L. longituba just starting up and the tallest >> stalk has topped out just prior to bloom at 40 inches to the base of >> the inflorescence. Add 4-5 inches to the peak. This is exception, but >> a number of other stalks are easily 36 inches, also very tall. >> >> After a week and 1/2 of no rain, there's a big rain storm >> predicted for tonight. So I expect to see a flurry of activity in a >> week or less. So far there's bloom or stalks on L . squamigera, >> longituba. sprengeri, L. chinensis and some hybrids. Usually L. >> sanguinea is the first to show, but no sign yet. It was badly hurt in >> April '07 late killer freezes so may still be set back. >> >> Incidentally, Diana, Lycoris are very poor bloomers in pots. >> I feel lucky to get a single bloom per pot. A friend on the East >> Coast has better bloom, but they have a lot more rain and I assume >> this makes all the difference. They can take / appreciate a LOT of >> water in spring maybe even sitting in water as I have seen in the >> wild in China for a couple species. >> >> Last year's freeze damaged all Lycoris foliage very badly and >> this year we had no damages and lots of rain, but buds are formed in >> the previous fall as I recall so they might still be light due to >> last year's damages. I'll report more in 'part 2' >> >> Meanwhile enjoying the show. Jim W. >> -- >> Dr. James W. Waddick >> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. >> Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 >> USA >> Ph. 816-746-1949 >> Zone 5 Record low -23F >> Summer 100F + >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:13:26 -0500 >> From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> >> Subject: [pbs] Crinums >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <p0624081fc4bfa6bfb295@[192.168.1.101]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >> >> Dear Friends, >> I was gone for week to visit Atlanta and much impressed by >> the streets lined with a variety of crepe myrtles. What a show! >> Surprised on returning home at the number and variety of >> Crinum still blooming and blooming for the first time. >> >> Super Ellen is on its third stalk and still dazzling. >> Crinum x powellii are mostly done except for selection >> including 'Nestor's Pink'. 'Cecil Houdyshel" and one labelled from >> Les Hannibal. This last Crinum has not bloomed before. I think it was >> passed along after Les' garden was dug and bulbs distributed. The >> flowers are a pale pink and the most fragrant hardy crinum as I >> reported before. I thought it was an x powellii type, but now that >> the flowers have faded, there are seeds forming. Sort of a surprise >> since this should be nearly totally sterile. >> >> Even C. scabrum is putting up a new stalk and a few x >> powellii, but minor. >> >> These crinum continue to impress me with their sturdiness, >> hardiness and vigor. A shame they are not seen more in gardens around >> here. >> >> Best Jim W. >> -- >> Dr. James W. Waddick >> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. >> Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 >> USA >> Ph. 816-746-1949 >> Zone 5 Record low -23F >> Summer 100F + >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:52:57 -0700 >> From: Laura & Dave <toadlily@olywa.net> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] "The Bulb Garden" >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <489A0F29.3010203@olywa.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> I just received the latest "The Bulb Garden", and I am very impressed. >> This obviously took a lot of thought and work. There is a nice blend of >> information; should be something for everyone! >> >> Thanks to all who had a hand in producing the newsletter !! >> >> Dave Brastow, 7A, Tumwater, Washington >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:03:54 -0400 >> From: Roy Herold <rherold@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [pbs] Narcissus Fly: When is it safe? >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <489A11BA.6040907@yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> I had a terrible time with narcissus fly getting into my pots of >> cyrtanthus when they were outside last summer (2007), so this year I put >> them in a coldframe covered with a screen (window type). Thinking that >> the danger of fly infestation was passed, I took the screen off a couple >> of weeks ago, mainly because flower scapes were running into it. >> >> Did I take it off too soon? Or could I have removed it much earlier, and >> if so, when? >> >> The cyrtanthus really seem to have thrived in the screened environment, >> irrespective of whether it kept the flies off. It gave a little extra >> shade, and a bit of protection from the incessant thunderstorms we have >> been having this summer. Lots of bloom, even on the 'difficult' C. >> tuckii. >> >> --Roy >> Northwest of Boston >> 8" of rain in July!! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 16:50:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) >> From: Mark Mazer <markmazerandfm13@earthlink.net> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus Fly: When is it safe? >> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: >> <13646711.1218059404079.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >>> >>>Did I take it off too soon? Or could I have removed it much earlier, and >>>if so, when? >> >> Hi Roy: >> When I lived in Northwest Connecticut, both narcissus fly species in our >> area had, in most years, laid their eggs by the end of May, most >> certainly >> by the middle of June. But the Cyrtanthus species were also highly >> susceptible to mealy bugs, so I settled on a regime that included an >> Imadicloprine drench twice a year. >> >> Best, >> Mark Mazer >> Hertford, North Carolina USA >> Zone 7b-8 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 06:06:56 -0700 >> From: "Diana Chapman" <rarebulbs@suddenlink.net> >> Subject: Re: [pbs] Oxalis rubra - white form ? >> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> >> Message-ID: <000701c8f88e$78554dc0$25196f4b@DJ9SK221> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Could be the white form of O. crassipes which is available from some >> suppliers. >> >> Diana >> Telos Rare Bulbs >> http://www.telosrarebulbs.com/ >>> >>> I was re-reading one of my older ('94) Pacific Horticulture >>> mags, an article on Oxalis had a picture of both white and pink flowered >>> O. rubra growing together. I like way the O. rubra behaves in the garden >>> - the large rhizomes are easy to find and it pretty much stay's put... >>> So I tried to locate a source for the white form on the web... No luck.. >>> In fact I can't find any reference to rubra white or alba... >>> >>> I suppose the white could have been another species - regnellii >>> comes to mind - anyone have ideas ? >>> >>> Chad Schroter >>> Gardening in Los Gatos, California >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >> >> >> End of pbs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 8 >> ********************************** > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 7601 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:10:00 -0400 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus fly > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <489B5698.1080506@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Iain: > > Here is a link to the scientific name. > > Arnold > > http://insectimages.org/browse/subimages.cfm/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:57:47 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus fly > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20080807135419.0359cef8@mail.mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear Iain, > > We have a wiki page devoted to this with information and photos that were > contributed from at least three members from across the pond so it > obviously is a problem in Ireland and the United Kingdom. Does anyone know > whether this fly is interested in bulbs from any other family besides > Amaryllidaceae? > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > Mary Sue > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: 07 Aug 2008 21:44 GMT > From: "Uli Urban" <johannes-ulrich-urban@T-Online.de> > Subject: [pbs] "The Bulb Garden" > To: "Pacifib Bulb Society messages" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <1KRDu9-19Lup00@fwd33.aul.t-online.de> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Dear All, > > > > Not having contributed for a long time in this list does not mean I > retired from bulbs..... on the contrary. I am dead-busy to at last get > the garden and house finished after some major changes, tired of > "pioneer works" I really do understand that this might also mean we have > a new President.... > So "The Bulb Garden" came as a nice break and I must say thank you to > all the contributors. It is so well written and so full of unusual and > never-heard-before information. I have always been fond of Alstroemerias > but was not sucessful with them except a weedy A.aurea but this one > succumbed to the building activities in the garden....... I will for > sure come back to these plants once everything is settled here. > The article on Wave Hill Garden made me feel like hopping into a plane > to have a look myself...... America with its warmer summers for sure has > things to offer garden wise which I have never seen as yet...... > Also very useful to know at last how to distinguish Cyclamen > hederifolium and C. graecum, honestly I always thought it is the same > species because I cannot see any difference between two flowering > plants. I grow both so next time I will watch out where exactly the > fruit stalk curls. Also very useful to read which Cyclamen grows on > which soil, this might explain some failure...... > It is an interesting solution to that terrible space problem just to buy > twenty extra acres...... but can you guys let us all know how you solve > the TIME-problem? > > Thank you all very much! Uli from Germany 35?C > here today with heavy thunderstorms and heave rain > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:38:03 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus fly > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20080808163311.017327a0@pop.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Mary SUe wrote, Does anyone know >>whether this fly is interested in bulbs from any other family besides >>Amaryllidaceae? > > > As far as I can see, it isn't. I have a large number of genera and > families > represented in my collection, and I have found bulb fly larvae only in > Narcissus, Galanthus, and Sternbergia. I now cover all the sternbergias > and > galanthus with screens or Reemay before the flies emerge but the narcissus > are so scattered around and so many of them that I haven't grouped and > covered them yet. I squeeze the bulbs hard when I lift them to test > whether > they have grubs -- the species I grow in the frames are all quite small so > this is effective though very disgusting. > > This year spring was very cold for a long time, and the flies did not > emerge until about a month later than I have seen them before; they must > emerge in response to soil temperature (the larvae pupate in the soil, not > inside the bulbs)? Anyway, so far I have found very few infested narcissus > bulbs, and no pot with more than one bad one. > > Jane McGary > Northwestern Oregon, USA > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:55:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ron Vanderhoff <rvanderhoff@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Oxalis rubra - white form ? > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <342295.7361.qm@web81006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Chad, > "Oxalis rubra" is one of the most confused plants in an already confused > genus, Oxalis. > ? > The plant you are probably asking about is probably best called?Oxalis > articulata ssp. rubra f. crassipes, although you will find this plant > listed under a dozen or?more different names. These might include Oxalis > rubra 'Alba', Oxalis rubra 'White', Oxalis crassipes, Oxalis crassipes > 'White', Oxalis articulata 'Alba', Oxalis articulata 'White' and many > others. > ? > Dr. Alicia Loureig's (deceased) paper in Phytologia?(1982) on Oxalis > Section Articulatae attempted to straighten out some of the confusion. It > is from this paper that the correct name of Oxalis articulata ssp. rubra > f. crassipes was established. In this paper she also?indicated that the > white?flowered version of this Oxalis was?described from a plant > cultivated?in Germany as from "South America".? Lourteig considers this > plant a white-flowered mutation that has been maintained only in > cultivation.? The stylar length can either be short or medium. > ? > For a supplier of this plant, I think you'll find a few sources if you try > some of the synonyms above, especially using the term "crassipes" in your > search. Be aware that this white flowered version has somewhat smaller > flowers than the rose-pink plants that you are probably familiar with. I > also suggest that you hunt for one of the soft pink forms, which are > especially attractive. > Ron Vanderhoff > Sunny Southern California where Oxalis grow easily > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chad Schroter <Chad.Schroter@sandisk.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2008 8:49:11 AM > Subject: [pbs] Oxalis rubra - white form ? > > > ??? I was re-reading one of my older ('94) Pacific Horticulture > mags, an article on Oxalis had a picture of both white and pink flowered > O. rubra growing together. I like way the O. rubra behaves in the garden > - the large rhizomes are easy to find and it pretty much stay's put... > So I tried to locate a source for the white form on the web... No luck.. > In fact I can't find any reference to rubra white or alba... > > ??? I suppose the white could have been another species - regnellii > comes to mind - anyone have ideas ? > > Chad Schroter > Gardening in Los Gatos, California > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 05:57:13 -0500 > From: Kelly Irvin <kellso@irvincentral.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus fly - organic control? > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <489C2689.4040105@irvincentral.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Mary Sue: > > I scanned through the article, which is very helpful. I seem to have > heard somewhere or read somewhere that vegetable oils can be used as a > spot spray on the foliage base to help with control... > > As a matter of fact, I just found an article that refers to canola oil > and pyrethrins as a drench, "http://davesgarden.com/guides/bf/go/2436/", > but I know this is not the source I have in vague memory. > > Anybody had any experience fighting the Narcissus fly organically? > > Mr. Kelly M. Irvin > 10850 Hodge Ln > Gravette, AR 72736 > USA > 479-787-9958 > USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b > > http://www.irvincentral.com/ > > > Mary Sue Ittner wrote: >> Dear Iain, >> >> We have a wiki page devoted to this with information and photos that were >> contributed from at least three members from across the pond so it >> obviously is a problem in Ireland and the United Kingdom. Does anyone >> know >> whether this fly is interested in bulbs from any other family besides >> Amaryllidaceae? >> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… >> >> Mary Sue > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:55:46 +0200 > From: "Martin Tversted" <tversted@email.dk> > Subject: [pbs] Kniphofia collectors > To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <000a01c8f95e$75653c30$0200000a@PC202395843122> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I would like to get in touch with other Kniphofia collectors and > hybridizers > for exchange of plant material and cultivation experience. > I have a collection here in Denmark of around 100 species and hybrids. > > If you are interested please contact me at tversted at email.dk > > Martin Tversted > Zone 7b > http://www.northern-nursery.dk/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:12:47 -0700 > From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org> > Subject: [pbs] Scilla peruviana and searching the archives > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20080808075824.035b5e40@mail.mcn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear Patrick, > > We have discussed Scilla peruviana in the past a number of times as people > have written with the same question that you have. It has a reputation for > skipping seasons of bloom. This has been true in my garden, but apparently > is not true for everyone. I think in one spot of my garden it just got too > shady. Some people have suggested that it needs a dry period in summer to > do well. It gets that in my garden but still does not bloom every year. > Here was another suggestion from the past: > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/old.php/… > > By the way for all those of you who are new to our list and for those of > you who have forgotten the formula for searching the archives in Google is > found on the Pacific Bulb Society web site. It is: > +[pbs] [search terms] site:///lists.ibiblio.org > > Google indexes all the posts from ibiblio lists. Unfortunately you can't > search from the archives for them, but you can search from Google. In the > Google box put in the formula above and substitute whatever you want to > find for "search terms". You may get previous and next posts in the list > of > messages you get, but you will also get the most relevant posts. In this > case you would put the following in the google search box if you wanted to > find previous posts about Scilla peruviana: > +[pbs] [Scilla peruviana] site:///lists.ibiblio.org > > Mary Sue > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:58:46 -0700 > From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Narcissus fly - organic control? > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20080809085518.016e58f8@pop.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Kelly wrote, > >>Anybody had any experience fighting the Narcissus fly organically? > > I remember somebody telling me, or writing, that he went out in his bulb > garden when they were emerging and whacked them with a tennis racquet. And > I think Steve Vinisky, a daffodil breeder, mentioned sending his children > out with butterfly nets. I had some luck last year using one of those > long-distance wasp sprays (not organic!) and nailing them on the wing. > They're easy to identify when flying because of the peculiar sound they > make, like giant mosquitoes. I got a couple this spring just by throwing > plastic pots at them. Very haphazard methods, all of these...I think a > spray at the base of the foliage, where they lay their eggs, is the best > idea and will try it next year. > > Jane McGary > Northwestern Oregon, USA > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 67, Issue 9 > ********************************** -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7848 spam emails to date. 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