Fwd: Establishing taxa as "present"
Jane McGary (Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:04:18 PDT)

Jim, thank you for forwarding Joyce's report. For those who don't know
already, Joyce Fingerut, a past president of the North American Rock Garden
Society, was the leader in getting the Small Lots of Seed import process
approved several years ago, after APHIS was transferred to the Department
of Homeland Security and began to prohibit individuals from buying seed
from abroad.

I would be glad to publish information on this in the Rock Garden
Quarterly, which has an international readership. In particular, I'd like
people to know how to format their databases of plants they are growing
(many of us keep this information up to date) so that the data can be
incorporated in the database Boyce Tankersley mentioned.

Contributions toward such an article can be sent to me privately, and I can
combine them and return the result to contributors for their approval.

Jane McGary
Editor, NARGS

At 08:39 AM 8/29/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Hi Jim:

USDA APHIS gave a presentation on this subject at the recent American
Society of Horticultural Sciences annual meeting. Indeed they have chosen
to implement the Australian Weed Risk Assessment Model which is predicated
upon the existence of a national database of all plants currently grown in
the country.

The presenters want to set a minimum limit - say 3 growers for each taxon
before it would make the list. They also want to ban any plant that has
been listed as a weed anywhere in the World regardless of whether it is
already in the USA and has not shown invasive tendencies in this country.

At this time, they are implementing the protocol without a national
database - in other words all plants will be subjected to a Weed Risk
Assessment. When we evaluated different models for our use at CBG we found
this model produced an excessive number of false positives - in the range
of 58% - 87% of the taxa not capable of becoming invasive were denied
entry in an effort to insure that no invasive plant is ever imported. From
the speakers perspective this level of error was acceptable.

Chicago Botanic Garden has led the botanic garden and arboretum community
in developing software that will create an online comprehensive list of
all taxa currently grown or that have been grown in botanic gardens and
arboreta. We've proven the software works - now we need to expand the
number of participants beyond the 16 American and two overseas
participants. I've changed the business logic of the database to permit
information about a taxon to be listed without an accession number after
realizing that most smaller growers will not assign accession numbers to
their collections.

What's next? We need to refine the Portal to this information and that
requires us to ask the folks that run Google Base to slightly modify 3
elements of their business logic to permit records to be sorted by
scientific name, over a 1,000 records to be returned at one time, and add
support for Mandarin. One of our overseas partners, Beijing Botanical
Garden is working with us to create a translation protocol to translate
all English records into Mandarin for use by Chinese scientists and all
Mandarin records into English for our use. Over half of the ornamental
plants grown in the USA originated from Chinese germplasm.

Apparently the USDA APHIS has never kept a record of the plants that have
been imported into the USA.

The support of NARGS and PBS towards creating a national database (our
botanic garden "PlantCollections" database has committed to providing data
to the Flora of Cultivated Plants) is extremely important.

Many thanks,

Boyce Tankersley
Director of Living Plant Documentation
Chicago Botanic Garden
1000 Lake Cook Road
Glencoe, IL 60022
tel: 847-835-6841
fax: 847-835-1635
email: btankers@chicagobotanic.org
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For Your Information.

Please read carefully, especially for future reference.

Jim Shields

From: Joyce Fingerut <alpinegarden@comcast.net>
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Subject: Establishing taxa as "present"
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:20:37 -0400

To the members of IHSEA -

Once the latest standard from NAPPO (RSPM No. 32) is published in October,
it will require that the participating countries of Canada, Mexico, and
the United States establish a screening process for all new plant taxa,
which will effectively act as an import barrier into those countries.
Eventually, this RSPM will be the basis of a similar international
standard, under the IPPC and will affect all countries (or at least those
that are signatories to the IPPC, close to 200 nations).
The standard demands that countries enact new regulations/legislation
requiring screening on all future introductions for potential
invasiveness. The screening process would be a form of Weed Risk
Assessment which would have to be completed on any taxon that is not
already present in the country before it will be permitted to enter (be
imported).

If horticultural societies are to continue to operate seed exchanges, they
must be capable of importing seeds from donors in other countries, as well
as distributing their seeds to members in other countries. Therefore, it
is crucial that we make certain that each country has the largest possible
database of plants as already existing within its borders. Every
specialist plant society must work to see that all its taxa are considered
to be "already present" in its own, and possibly other,
countries. National governmental plant protection organizations (like
APHIS in the US, DEFRA in the UK, CFIA in Canada.....) must be persuaded
that although these plants are not present in commercial Big Box
quantities, they are being grown in both private and public gardens and
offered by the endless array of small specialist nurseries.
(Handling the proposed screening of new items will be another problem, for
another day)

In the United States, a new project to write a comprehensive "Flora of
Cultivated Plants" is beginning, headed by Dr. Tom Elias, Director of the
National Arboretum. Fortunately, he sees the point of including plants
listed in seed exchanges. He is interested in the seed database that NARGS
currently operates, and my guess is that he would also include the taxa
from other organizations' databases, so that as many genera could be
covered in as great a depth as possible.
-> If other US-based societies would be interested in having the plants in
their seed exchange databases included in the Flora, please contact me.

My personal feeling is also that, since so many societies based in other
countries have US members, there is a fair chance that the taxa listed in
their exchanges have made their way into US gardens and nurseries.
Therefore, taxa listed on almost any seedlist should be considered as
being cultivated in the US.
-> If I can move the Flora's committee to this way of thinking about the
globalness of horticulture, would other societies, in other countries
(especially Canada and the UK), be interested in having their databases
included?

I am on the contact list for this project and will attend its next meeting
(not yet scheduled). It would ultimately be helpful to everyone if I can
take a complete record of ALL the plants that we assume are being grown
in the US.....from all sources. Let me hear your thoughts on this
issue. Please contact me with questions - and, especially offers - either
through this list or privately.

Thank you -
Joyce

Joyce Fingerut

Government Liaison,

North American Rock Garden Society

<http://www.nargs.org/>http://www.nargs.org/

Member organization:

International Horticultural Seed Exchange Advocacy (IHSEA)

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