In relation to Jim M's comments, and tied to the BX, might I suggest every member donating variety seed to the BX include "x self" or "x OP" (OP = open pollination). "OP" or some other descriptor with the same meaning would be the best choice, unless the provider specified they isolated and guaranteed self-pollination or gathered the seed from an isolated population (then use "x self"). Pollinators can travel long distances, and do. Example: Ipheion 'Alberto Castillo' x OP "OP" will include self-pollination, which will be the most likely occurrence in self compatible situations, but includes any possibility of stray pollen from compatible species or varieties. In most species situations, no two plants are identical, although the differences can be very subtle, so variety names can be attached to more robust selections from a population. Nevertheless, their seed will still reflect the variation within a population, even without contamination from other species or varieties. In other words, that particular variety can only be perpetuated asexually (bulblets, cormlets, cuttings, etc.). In the case of species, it could be redundant to include the extra identifiers, unless the distributor has a concern that fertilization could have occurred via other species or varieties, or viewed from a different perspective, the distributor wishes to assure the recipient s/he took measures to guarantee self-pollination. Mr. Kelly M. Irvin 10850 Hodge Ln Gravette, AR 72736 USA 479-787-9958 USDA Cold Hardiness Zone 6a/b mailto:kelly@irvincentral.com http://www.irvincentral.com/ Jim McKenney wrote: > At least two postings in this current Ipheion thread have mentioned seeds of > 'Alberto Castillo'. > > Does anyone know if the original 'Alberto Castillo' was meant to be a clone? > Was it a selection from a wild population of white-flowered plants? > > If it was a selection from a wild white-flowered population, then it might > be time for the taxonomists to take another look at the rank of that > population. > > If it was meant to be a clone, then I hope those of you raising them from > seed do not distribute them as 'Alberto Castillo'. Or is that horse already > out of the barn? > > > Jim McKenney > jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where Gelsemium sempervirens > is sweetly blooming. > > My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ > > Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS > Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ > > Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >