Hello all: Between +20 and -20 (Zone 5) there is more than "just" a little difference, which, although acknowledged, tends to be overlooked, glossed, or otherwise neglected in discussions about "hardiness" which word is used carelessly and thrown around about as loosely as partisan words in certain political conversations. Without being clear about what we are saying, we're not going to advance the cause of learning how to grow bulbs very well in different situations. Bulbs, however, are somewhat forgiving because of their storage capabilities--and can "ride out" intermittent climatic unevennesses that would more seriously affect a non-tuberous or non-bulbous plant. Somehow, the quality of soil that certain bulbs grow in needs to be mentioned--more often--if not routinely. Of course, by This certainly got touched on in the discussions about where to get coarse Perlite. Has anyone checked the degree of coarseness of Perlite used in building construction for insulation or manufacture of ceiling insulating tiles? I can imagine that it might be much cheaper even though it might not be packaged in less than cubic yard or carload lots. Adam in Glenview, IL. USDA Zone 5a ----- Original Message ----- From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 42, Issue 29 > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post: <mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > List-Archive: <http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> > > Today's Topics: > > 1. frost tolerant Crinum foliage (Kenneth Hixson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 20:03:45 -0700 > From: Kenneth Hixson <khixson@nu-world.com> > Subject: [pbs] frost tolerant Crinum foliage > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20060723195448.02e958c0@mail.nu-world.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Dear Joe: >>Does anyone know at what point these plants lose their folaige to frost? > > I'm not much help. Here (western Oregon, Z7/8) all of the > Crinums are frostbitten in winter, and our lows often do not get much > below +20F. I almost said Crinums are deciduous, but that is > inaccurate, isn't it--they don't lose their leaves, because the leaves > just keep growing. They stop growing after cold that "bites" the exposed > portions. They start growing more leaves (extending the existing leaves) > well before the last frost. > I'll try to be more observant this winter. > > C. Burgundy has opened one flower. Plants by the label > "Royal White" have been in bloom for about two weeks, but the flowers > have been pink, so presumably I've mixed the labels with C. x powelii. > > Ken > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 42, Issue 29 > *********************************** >