Hi Gang, I have received wonderful private notes and have read other postings. I can see that I really am a plant-nut in the extreme, and that I care about some things that are not of interest to all. Please accept my comments as good natured banter, and I will happily sit in the doghouse for a day or two. It goes without saying, the PBS is a great place to make friends and to learn. Cordially, Joe Shaw Nearly 100 F here today. Wow, how do the Amarcrinum stay so pretty.