Last night, I ran across another reference to Crinum culture along the Hudson River: Neltje Blanchan, in her The American Flower Garden, published in 1909, stated that Crinum x powellii is "Hardy at New York if well covered in winter". I assume that means hardy in the New York City area. ----------------------- Hi Gang, Jim has provided some wonderful data from the "old literature." I wonder how much else is out there regarding Crinum and Crinum hybrids. Keep up the good work Jim M. Joe