In a message dated 2/19/06 4:17:29 PM, daffodil@xnet.co.nz writes: << I have some interesting Cybistetes longifolia in flower at the moment. One of them opened up ivory white and, remained like that for a long time, and finally faded to a hint of very pale pink, barely noticeable. >> The white one sure reminds me of the white belladonna hybrids...including the tendency to show the blush of pink as they age, and some do come very short stemmed for me as well--wonder if Cybistetes could be in the ancestry of these??...what do you think, Jim Lykos? Best wishes, Bill the Bulb Baron <A HREF="http://www.billthebulbbaron.com/">BilltheBulbBaron.com</A> William R.P. Welch P.O. Box 1736 (UPS: 264 West Carmel Valley Road) Carmel Valley, CA 93924-1736, USA Phone/fax (831) 659-3830