Bill D. Hello from Raleigh, NC. I was in NZ in Dec and it's just lovely. What I noticed about the weather in your area is how mild it is, neither too hot nor too cold and mostly moist. Do you think that someone working in a place with wider temp/humidity variations can duplicate what you do in a controlled environment, like a glass case indoors or a cold frame in spring when weather is between 5 and 25C? Do you have pictures of your setup online? I'd love to take a peek...If you don't have a photo website you can try posting some to photobucket.com (it's free). Cheers, RJ >During that time I pay particular attention to watering, not to wet, and >always start them in semi-shaded, covered open benches, (Mary Sue knows what >I am talking about) in the coolest part of the nursery, to stop them damping >off.