Dwarf Tulipa - catching up
Jim McKenney (Wed, 25 Feb 2004 05:16:05 PST)

Well, Mark, my remarks were not really meant to be taken too seriously - I
was just playing the devil's advocate and trying to stir things up a bit.

I certainly share your enthusiasm for Crocus Prins Claus.

If I'm not mistaken, the eponymous Prins Claus died only a year or two ago.
Can anyone confirm that?

Jim McKenney
jimmckenney@starpower.net

At 11:40 PM 2/24/2004 EST, you wrote:

Lots of good comments on dwarf Tulipa. Let me respond to a few items:

There were two AlpenPix postings of Tulipa species, Tulipa undulatifolia
photographed by Graham Nicholls, and Tulipa neustreuvae photographed by

Jon Evans.

Both are stunning dwarf bulbs, but I'm particularly smitten with T.
undulatifolia... not only is it among the most beautiful dwarf tulips I've

seen, but it

is among the most stunning dwarf bulbs of all time.

Tulipa undulatifolia
http://home.no.net/alpenpix/board/…
Tulipa neustreuvae
http://home.no.net/alpenpix/board/…

The first species is available from Hoog and Dix wholesale, but maybe we
could convince Paige Woodward or Russell Stafford to import this beauty

through

their nursery channels if there were enough interested buyers of a few bulbs
each.

Mary Sue Ittner wrote:

Tulipa bakeri 'Lilac Wonder' is another very
satisfactory Tulipa. I have planted this in the
ground hoping it might come back and occasionally
see it returning, but it does much better for me in
containers using my usual method. Funny, but I've
never found its foliage "chubby." I'll have to look
at it this year more closely.

I do think the foliage is rather chubby, and proportionally too large for

the

rather small cup-shaped blooms. Check out my photo page on T. polychroma, a
most delightful miniature white-flowered species, where it turns out that
Tulipa bakeri bulbs were intermingled in the Holland bulb bins. The

narrow gray

foliage is T. polychroma, the wide, green foliage just emerging is bakeri
'Lilac Wonder'. The foliage will get much bigger and fatter than what you

see in

the images of early foliar emergence.
http://plantbuzz.com/RockGard/Bulbs/…
...and here's the link to T. bakeri 'Lilac Wonder' bulbs growing out amongst
T. tarda bulbs:
http://plantbuzz.com/RockGard/Bulbs/…

Jim McKenney <jimmckenney@starpower.net> wrote several paragraphs:

Tulipa bakeri Lilac Wonder was also mentioned. Tulipa
saxatilis puts up foliage in the fall; the foliage is
severely damaged in a typical winter. As a result, I
grew this species (by replacing it frequently) for years
without ever seeing it flower. When Lilac Wonder
became available, I was dubious: wasn't it just another
saxatilis variant under a new name? Was there any
reason to think that it might do better here?

The two species are regarded as quite distinct, albeit the flowers have
similar coloration reported as paler pink in T. saxatilis. Considering T.

bakeri

comes from Crete, it is surprising to me that it is ironclad hardy in New
England. The foliage does not sprout in the autumn like saxatilis, but

waits until

spring. Tulipa saxatilis is said to be stoloniferous. Of the two species,
I've only grown T. bakeri, and it certainly shows no tendency to be
stoloniferous.

I couldn't agree less about your comments about
what rock gardeners prefer. I'm a rock gardener -of
sorts, but not the sort who measures everything and
tosses anything over eight inches high. But then, I
don't have a real rock garden. In my experience,
most rock gardeners don't.

You must not take my comments too seriously, as they were purposely
stereotyped to emphasize a point. My comments are based on some level of

classic "rock

gardening doctrine", personal observation over the years in the New England
area, and a bit of mockery of the rock gardening "norms". I'm the first to
admit that I like displays of pansies, petunias, huge-headed hydrangeas,

giant

hibiscus, snapdragons and zinnias, overbred iris and dahlias, lilacs, and

a host

of shrubs and trees.

The rock gardeners you seem to be referring to
are the space-starved modern rock gardeners who
set aside a few square yards of rock heap and
within that area manage to see glacial till, a
moraine, assorted chasms and crevices

I didn't realized I had implied so much! To your assertion, I believe quite
the opposite. Some of the best rock gardens in eastern USA that I've

visited,

particularly in Connecticut, and western and coastal Massachusetts, among
other locations, had rather luxuriously expansive sites and elegant

gardens, not

even close to being a "rock heap".

As for plants, nothing much bigger than
a Draba need apply. And thus the need
for tiny tulips and crocus. And, as far as
I'm concerned, the result is proportionally
reduced enjoyment.

"Proportionally reduced enjoyment"?... based on the need for tiny tulip and
crocus? I don't see the correlation whatsoever, and find such an idea...

let's

say...novel. It has more to do with the overall character of a plant, its
proportional balance, the disposition of leaves and flowers, and nuance of

color

and scent; these things offering visual attraction and fidelity, not
necessarily based on size or height at all. I adore miniature

narcissus... most

people seem to, and why not, they are darling replicas of their larger

kin. But I

have my share of King Alfreds, as many people do, for the sheer exuberance

of

spring splendor and color they offer. You're right to point out, most rock
gardeners are not strickly adherent to the so-called 12" rule (I haven't

heard

of the 8" rule you mentioned, nor the draba-height rule implying 2" max.
height or so), and they tend to grow what they like.

So let's not bash the big tulips and crocus.
And please! We all don't prefer the so-called
species - certainly not to the exclusion of the
"inflated Dutch crocus". "Absolutely not"?

I don't think I bashed big tulips, other than trying to encapsulate a few
predispositions regarding them, and the perceived "norms" that ensue,

whether

these be right or wrong. My mom's Red and Orange Emperor tulips that I

plant for

her are indeed splendid when they bloom, and she's proud that her garden
stands out from the neighbors. Regarding Dutch crocus, it is my personal

opinion

they look big and inflated, and lack the finesse and charm of the smaller
sorts. Are Dutch crocus pretty... sure they are, but I'd pass them up

gladly, to

have a mature clump of C. chrysanthus 'Prins Claus', with pristine flowers

so

tightly packed they can hardly open and the floral scent worth lying in

the mud

for, to satiate the senses.
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…

Jane McGary mentions a couple species that catch my attention; "T.
orithyoides (tiny, white-and-greenish, in flower now) from Central Asia;

and T.

sharonensis from Israel, thanks to a NARGS member there". Where might we

find T.

orithyoides? It sounds wonderful. Where is the species from? I guess I

must

scour the seed lists to find the more unusual sorts.

Thanks Iza Goroff for the reminder about the NARGS Plant of the Month,

with 4

Tulipa species represented. I particularly like the Tulipa batalinii

'Yellow

Jewel' photo, the soft yellow flowers so pert and engaging.
http://www.nargs.org/potm/potm_oct03.html

Thanks to others for sharing their favorite dwarf tulips. If I had to

draw a

conclusion from the experience of others, it would be that Tulipa species

are

quite satisfactory in colder climates, and to a slightly lesser extent in
warmer climates, but in all cases, they seem desirable and rewarding to

those who

grow them.

On a closing note for this message, I must quote a line from Paige

Woodward's

tulipa page on her Pacific Rim Native Plant Nursery.
http://www.hillkeep.ca/bulbs%20tulipa.htm
In her offerings of Tulipa species (accompanied by photos), she says "Those
we offer are primal and voluptuous. Grow them in swathes." That says it all
somehow! I must try the primal T. carinata (distinctive flame red stars),
ingens (huge red waxy flowers), kaufmanniana 'Ak-Tash' (upfacing cream

yellow

flowers), and ostrowskiana (hot red-orange blooms on short stems).

Mark McDonough Pepperell, Massachusetts, United States
antennaria@aol.com "New England" USDA Zone 5
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