Chad Cox
Paul LICHT (Sun, 25 Dec 2016 15:52:42 PST)

I didn't say that Puya were 'nice'; I got torn to shreds when I fell into a
big one. Another small species that blooms in a few years is P. mirabilis.
Paul

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
wrote:

Nice to see PBS posts arriving again; the list host cut me off for a
couple of weeks.

I've grown a couple of Puya species (and flowered one of them, as I recall
in about 8 years) and have admired a number of others in South America. I
don't grow them any more because (1) they are not hardy outdoors here in
Portland, Oregon; (2) if grown in a container, it would eventually have to
be far larger than I could move (in particular, P. raimondii gets
gigantic); and (3) they have vicious hooked barbs on the leaf margins and
you don't want to get too close to them. When I moved my potted ones
outdoors for the summer, I had to wrap a tarp around the plant to avoid the
fishhooks.

The UC Berkeley Botanical Garden suffers frost rarely, and then it usually
isn't severe (barring what happened in 1990/1991, when plants all over the
Pacific Coast froze to death). More important, you can't translate
elevations in the Andes directly to North American USDA "hardiness zones."
At more temperate latitudes, the plants are likely to spend their winters
snug under the snow, and as you get nearer the Equator, temperatures even
at what seems (especially to a resident of the Atlantic coast) as very high
elevation are relatively moderate, perhaps freezing at night and thawing in
the daytime.

So my opinion is, don't try them outdoors in Boston! And if you want one
in your greenhouse, look for a smaller species, such as P. venusta (which
has beautiful glaucous foliage and purple flowers). In my experience the
seeds germinate readily.

Jane McGary

Portland, Oregon, USA

On 12/25/2016 8:19 AM, Paul LICHT wrote:

Chad
The UC Botancal Garden in Berkeley has a large collection of Puya species,
alll growing outside for several decades. They bloom regularly. The most
unusual and largest is Puya raimondii from Peru/Bolivia. Said to bloom
only
after 75-100 yrs in nature, several years ago, we had a bloom in a 26 yr
old (planted as seed in the Garden). Many Puya come from mountainous
areas.
The P. raimondii typically occurs from 10-14,000 ft in the Andes and might
well live n Mass.

Paul

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 4:49 AM, Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> wrote:

You grow puya! I saw some in Venezuela once. Rumor has it that they have a

tendency to autocombust, and that some kinds take 150 years to flower.
Some
have turquoise flowers. Does anybody know what zones they will live in?
I´d
love to grow them in Massachusetts for the next 150 years or so.
Jane Sargent
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