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1. Re: Chad Cox (Jane Sargent)
2. Re: Chad Cox (Paul LICHT)
3. Re: Chad Cox (Jane McGary)
4. Re: Chad Cox (Paul LICHT)
5. Flowering now (David Pilling)
6. Re: Flowering now (Jane McGary)
7. Re: Flowering now (David Pilling)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 07:49:10 -0500
From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com>
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [pbs] Chad Cox
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You grow puya! I saw some in Venezuela once. Rumor has it that they have
a tendency to autocombust, and that some kinds take 150 years to flower.
Some have turquoise flowers. Does anybody know what zones they will live
in? I?d love to grow them in Massachusetts for the next 150 years or so.
Jane Sargent

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 08:19:27 -0800
From: Paul LICHT <plicht@berkeley.edu>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Chad Cox
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Chad
The UC Botancal Garden in Berkeley has a large collection of Puya species,
alll growing outside for several decades. They bloom regularly. The most
unusual and largest is Puya raimondii from Peru/Bolivia. Said to bloom only
after 75-100 yrs in nature, several years ago, we had a bloom in a 26 yr
old (planted as seed in the Garden). Many Puya come from mountainous areas.
The P. raimondii typically occurs from 10-14,000 ft in the Andes and might
well live n Mass.

Paul

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 12:54:57 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Chad Cox
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Nice to see PBS posts arriving again; the list host cut me off for a
couple of weeks.

I've grown a couple of Puya species (and flowered one of them, as I
recall in about 8 years) and have admired a number of others in South
America. I don't grow them any more because (1) they are not hardy
outdoors here in Portland, Oregon; (2) if grown in a container, it would
eventually have to be far larger than I could move (in particular, P.
raimondii gets gigantic); and (3) they have vicious hooked barbs on the
leaf margins and you don't want to get too close to them. When I moved
my potted ones outdoors for the summer, I had to wrap a tarp around the
plant to avoid the fishhooks.

The UC Berkeley Botanical Garden suffers frost rarely, and then it
usually isn't severe (barring what happened in 1990/1991, when plants
all over the Pacific Coast froze to death). More important, you can't
translate elevations in the Andes directly to North American USDA
"hardiness zones." At more temperate latitudes, the plants are likely to
spend their winters snug under the snow, and as you get nearer the
Equator, temperatures even at what seems (especially to a resident of
the Atlantic coast) as very high elevation are relatively moderate,
perhaps freezing at night and thawing in the daytime.

So my opinion is, don't try them outdoors in Boston! And if you want one
in your greenhouse, look for a smaller species, such as P. venusta
(which has beautiful glaucous foliage and purple flowers). In my
experience the seeds germinate readily.

Jane McGary

Portland, Oregon, USA

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 15:52:42 -0800
From: Paul LICHT <plicht@berkeley.edu>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Chad Cox
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I didn't say that Puya were 'nice'; I got torn to shreds when I fell into a
big one. Another small species that blooms in a few years is P. mirabilis.
Paul

On Sun, Dec 25, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:29:35 +0000
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] Flowering now
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Hi,

Flowering now (in North West England at the seaside), a white nerine
bowdenii and an Ipheion (aka Tristagma 'Rolf Fiedler'). Signs of flowers
forming on the galanthus nivalis. Nothing else, a contrast to a year ago
when there were narcissus flowering.

--
David Pilling
http://www.davidpilling.com/

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 12:42:41 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Flowering now
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Here in the maritime Pacific Northwest (USA) we are having intermittent
periods of moderate frost, snow, and ice, punctuated by rain and a few
sunny days. Numerous Galanthus have emerged but are not quite open yet,
and the two fall-flowering Galanthus in the garden have withstood the
weather so far. Acis tingitanum is in flower in both garden and unheated
bulb house. No crocuses at the moment. A few Colchicum or Merendera
species are in flower in the bulb house, such as Colchicum triphyllum
and Colchicum doerfleri. Many forms of Narcissus cantabricus and its
hybrids are flowering, but the flowers don't stand up to the weather, so
I enjoy them under the roof of the bulb house. Narcissus romieuxii is
just starting to open. A few Cyclamen coum subsp. caucasicum are in
flower; most of them come later.

Not geophytes but rather shrubs are pleasing at this time of year,
whether the numerous broadleaf evergreen and coniferous ones grown so
much here, or the deciduous winter-flowering ones such as Chimonanthus
praecox and Viburnum 'Dawn'. Mahonia 'Arthur Menzies' is pleasing both
people and hummingbirds with its bright yellow flowers. Sasanqua
camellias diligently open a few new flowers after each freeze.

Jane McGary

Portland, Oregon, USA

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 21:00:49 +0000
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Flowering now
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Hi Jane,

If you're going to cheat - I'll raise you winter flowering jasmine,
Fuchsia, passiflora caerulea

--
David Pilling (at the seaside in North West England)
http://www.davidpilling.com/

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