pbs Digest, Vol 151, Issue 16

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Haemanthus growth trigger (James SHIELDS)
2. Glad Whatever (Travis O)
3. Re: Glad Whatever (Leo Martin)
4. Re: Haemanthus growth trigger (Kenneth Preteroti)
5. SX3 is closed (Steve Marak)
6. Re: Haemanthus growth trigger (Kenneth)
7. Re: Haemanthus growth trigger (Peter Taggart)
8. Re: Glad Whatever (John Ralph Carpenter)
9. Re: Glad Whatever (Dennis Kramb)
10. Re: Glad Whatever (Bracey Tiede)
11. Re: Glad Whatever (Peter Taggart)
12. Re: Glad Whatever (Sarah Hinckley)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:54:51 -0400
From: James SHIELDS <jshields46074@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus growth trigger
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Hi Stephen,

In my experience, the winter-growing sorts are triggered by temperatures
(chilly nights) and probably also the calendar. An occasional flood in the
greenhouse does not usually start them growing in mid-summer. Cool nights
in June do not start the bulbs to flowering.

Jim

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Stephen Putman <putman@pobox.upenn.edu>
wrote:

I'm trying to learn about Haemanthus. I've had reasonable success with
the summer growing and the evergreen species, but less satisfactory results
with winter growing.

What is the trigger for new growth in these winter growing species in
autumn? Is it temperature? This would mean to wait for an appropriate
temperature and then water. If the trigger is water, then the issue would
be at what temperatures would a moist medium be beneficial, and when fatal?

Any other bits of knowledge about this topic would be gladly received by
me, and possibly others who are not yet expert in the growing of these most
interesting plants.

Regards,

Stephen Putman in central Delaware about a mile from the Delaware Bay, in
the middle of the Cedar Swamp Wildlife Management Area. No potted plants
in bloom, but a nice show in the garden.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:10:17 -0700
From: Travis O <enoster@hotmail.com>
To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] Glad Whatever
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Judy,

Isn't tangential discussion the point of a conversation (within reason)?

I think it is great that the farmers are doing that. I wonder if there is a reduction in cost for growing gladies (lol) over corn or soy. In my experience corn and soy are water hogs, I have gladds that get virtually no summer water yet still flower well, and increase.

Travis Owen
Rogue River, OR

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:53:24 -0700
From: Leo Martin <stnalpsoel@gmail.com>
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever
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But I am not aware of any collective naming of flowers.

Bouquet?

Leo Martin
Zone 9?
Phoenix Arizona USA

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:11:43 -0400
From: Kenneth Preteroti <k.preteroti@verizon.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus growth trigger
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Great question Stephen. Hopefully you will receive responses from the east coast growers that have like conditions to yours. However I believe there may not be a black or white answer. Amaryllids maintain their roots during dormancy. So I have been giving my winter growers some water through the summer in the greenhouse. They are in a very porous mix in clay pots. Same for the summer growers during their winter dormancy in the basement. I would like to know also.

Ken P
Old Bridge, NJ
Zone 6 b

On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:50 PM, Stephen Putman <putman@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote:

I'm trying to learn about Haemanthus. I've had reasonable success with the summer growing and the evergreen species, but less satisfactory results with winter growing.

What is the trigger for new growth in these winter growing species in autumn? Is it temperature? This would mean to wait for an appropriate temperature and then water. If the trigger is water, then the issue would be at what temperatures would a moist medium be beneficial, and when fatal?

Any other bits of knowledge about this topic would be gladly received by me, and possibly others who are not yet expert in the growing of these most interesting plants.

Regards,

Stephen Putman in central Delaware about a mile from the Delaware Bay, in the middle of the Cedar Swamp Wildlife Management Area. No potted plants in bloom, but a nice show in the garden.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:26:19 -0500
From: Steve Marak <samarak@gizmoworks.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [pbs] SX3 is closed
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The arrival rate for requests has fallen off to zero, so SX3 is closed.

Packages should start going out early next week.

Steve

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 13:47:02 -0400
From: Kenneth <k.preteroti@verizon.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus growth trigger
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Opps forgot this. I wait for signs of growth, leaves or flowers. Then water.

Ken P
Old Bridge, NJ
Zone 6b

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 19:37:12 +0100
From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Haemanthus growth trigger
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I agree with Jim, and caution against being quick to water Summer dormant
bulbs, in pots, too early. Watering early, if it is done, should be no more
than a light damping down. The species of Haemanthus which I have grown do
not need a drenching to tell them when to grow.
Wait for fluctuating Autumn temperatures.
Peter (UK)

On 14 August 2015 at 16:54, James SHIELDS <jshields46074@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Stephen,

Jim

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Stephen Putman <putman@pobox.upenn.edu>
wrote:

would

be at what temperatures would a moist medium be beneficial, and when

fatal?

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:05:00 +0100
From: John Ralph Carpenter <ralph.carpenter1@googlemail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever
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"But I am not aware of any collective naming of flowers". A bunch? A posy?
An arrangement?

On 14 August 2015 at 01:45, Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> wrote:

O.K. Call it what you will - sword lily, gladiolus, pluralize as gladioli,
"common speak" as gladiola - my whole reason for posting was not to start a
dialog on the proper name for more than one gladiolus. It was to say "Isn't
this a nice thing for the corn and soybean farmer to do, raise a whole lot
of these corms and donate the flowers for hospital patients." Which
apparently was so minor a thought as to be completely overlooked.

In venery there are some wonderful collective nouns, in some instances
refined as to whether the group - geese in this instance - are in the air
(a skein or wedge), on the ground (a flock or gaggle), or on the water (a
plump of geese.) But I am not aware of any collective naming of flowers.

Judy

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 15:18:58 -0400
From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com>
To: John Ralph Carpenter <ralph.carpenter1@googlemail.com>, Pacific
Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever
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In my garden I call them a drift. "Look at that drift of dandelions
(burdock/thistle/etc.)!"

Dennis in Cincinnati (who enjoys growing glads)

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:05 PM, John Ralph Carpenter via pbs <
pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

"But I am not aware of any collective naming of flowers". A bunch? A posy?
An arrangement?

On 14 August 2015 at 01:45, Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> wrote:

O.K. Call it what you will - sword lily, gladiolus, pluralize as

gladioli,

"common speak" as gladiola - my whole reason for posting was not to

start a

dialog on the proper name for more than one gladiolus. It was to say

"Isn't

this a nice thing for the corn and soybean farmer to do, raise a whole

lot

of these corms and donate the flowers for hospital patients." Which
apparently was so minor a thought as to be completely overlooked.

Judy

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:26:01 -0700
From: "Bracey Tiede" <tiede@pacbell.net>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever
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Thinking larger - A field of flowers? A garden of flowers?

Bracey
San Jose CA

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Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever

"But I am not aware of any collective naming of flowers". A bunch? A posy?
An arrangement?

On 14 August 2015 at 01:45, Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> wrote:

O.K. Call it what you will - sword lily, gladiolus, pluralize as gladioli,
"common speak" as gladiola - my whole reason for posting was not to start

dialog on the proper name for more than one gladiolus. It was to say

"Isn't

this a nice thing for the corn and soybean farmer to do, raise a whole lot
of these corms and donate the flowers for hospital patients." Which
apparently was so minor a thought as to be completely overlooked.

Judy

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Ashford
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 20:26:18 +0100
From: Peter Taggart <petersirises@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever
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Well said Judy, too many of us prefer arguments, rather than accord
appreciation.
Peter (UK)

On 14 August 2015 at 01:45, Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> wrote:

O.K. Call it what you will - my whole reason for posting was not to
start a dialog on the proper name for more than one gladiolus. It was to
say "Isn't this a nice thing for the corn and soybean farmer to do, raise a
whole lot of these corms and donate the flowers for hospital patients."
Which apparently was so minor a thought as to be completely overlooked.

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:50:14 -0700
From: Sarah Hinckley <sarahh@suiattle.net>
To: John Ralph Carpenter <ralph.carpenter1@googlemail.com>, Pacific
Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Glad Whatever
Message-ID: <83A368BD-D8CD-4D59-AF6C-53F3BE637BFF@suiattle.net>
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The word venery comes from hunting, and means the naming of groups of animals. Since most people don't hunt flowers (present group excepted), it doesn't surprise me that there are no collective names for them

Sarah

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:05, John Ralph Carpenter via pbs <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

"But I am not aware of any collective naming of flowers". A bunch? A posy?
An arrangement?

On 14 August 2015 at 01:45, Judy Glattstein <jgglatt@gmail.com> wrote:

Judy

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