My frits, too, are having their happiest spring in years, think it must be the prolonged cold we have had here on the coast -- weeks and weeks of it. A question for Jane and whoever received Erythronium x multiscapoideum or ?? Multiscapoideum itself is blooming but there is an erythronium you thought might be a hybrid, Jane; it is spectacular! The leaf pattern is quite a bit darker and more defined and the leaves, stems and buds are all flushed a wonderful rose. It's not quite in bloom yet and I will get photos as soon as possible. Has anyone had this one bloom? And if so, do you have any clues as to identity? It does seem more vigorous than the species. Robin Hansen Southwest Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane McGary To: Pacific Bulb Society Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: [pbs] Fritillaria hybrids The fritillarias are getting going well now and I'm having the annual anxiety of trying to verify their identities. Oh for a monograph! I wish I were not so intimidated by the thought of posting photos on the PBS wiki -- every time I try it, I seem to do it wrong. The big surprise today was the first flower in a pot of seedlings of F. pluriflora, seeds from my own plants. It appears to be a hybrid with the pollen parent probably being F. striata, which flowers nearby at the same time. F. pluriflora flowers are held upfacing or at an oblique tilt, whereas this one has fully pendent flowers like F. striata. The tepals are slightly reflexed at the tips, like striata but not like pluriflora. It is deep pink, like pluriflora, but shows the "dotted line" tesselation of F. striata, and also that species' white style. It does not have the sweet fragrance typical of striata. I have sent photos to experts for their opinions. These two species both come from California, but are widely separated geographically. I'm eagerly awaiting the first flowering this year of another plant that I know is a hybrid, because I made a deliberate cross with pollen of F. eastwoodiae onto what I think is F. gentneri (or a very large, flaring F. recurva, which is basically ... gentneri). I did this because I had only one clone of the latter, so could not get pure seed of it, and was curious. F. eastwoodiae itself is sometimes claimed to be a natural hybrid of F. recurva x F. micrantha, but it is very stable and fertile, and I suspect it should be viewed as a good species. I've previously written about bee hybrids here between F. biflora and F. purdyi (both ways), and Ed Rustvold of Berkeley, California, has sent me material of plants he thinks are this cross. Diana Chapman and I have apparent hybrids of F. liliacea x F. agrestis that were made by bees here -- no improvement on the former, unfortunately, as they are green instead of white and smell bad. I prefer to grow wild species, but these garden hybrids are fascinating too, and the purdyi x biflora cross is both attractive and unusually robust, probably a better garden plant than the somewhat miffy F. purdyi but preserving its black-and-white tessellation and shiny surface texture. It also produces many offsets AND viable seed -- I may see the F2 flower this year. So if you'd like to be a lily breeder and don't have much room, consider their little cousins. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1327 - Release Date: 3/12/2008 1:27 PM