I am even less patient.....I plant the seeds and wait until real estate gets too dear, if they haven't performed I move them. There are about 30 pots sitting in the plant graveyard, most still with tags. One without a tag just germinated so it will be quite the surprise when I figure out what is in it Erin Grace, Thomasville, Georgia USA USDA Hardiness zone 8b, AHS heat zone9