Hi, Since this list has been hosted by ibiblio the amount of spam addressed to it has increased dramatically. As this happens we as administrators (Arnold, Diane, and me) have tried to cope with it and so has ibiblio. One of the changes that ibiblio is making as of next week is to discard all messages that come from addresses not subscribed to the list. In the past anyone writing to the list who was not subscribed would get a message telling them their note was not delivered since they were not a member of the list. Unfortunately the spammers would then send spam to the address that sent this message and soon the spam to this address was out of control. At first we got all these messages delivered to our email addresses too, but finally that was too much so they are now held in a place where we can look at them. When those messages got to be 100s a day, ibiblio started to filter them as well so the number of those we have to look at has recently been reduced. If one of those message came from one of you using an additional email address that was not the one you were subscribed under, we could help. Now those messages will just be discarded automatically without notice. So if you post to the group and you don't see that it appears, check first to be sure that you used the same address for the messages you receive. If you want to be able to post from multiple addresses you need to let Arnold, Diane, and me know. We can add the extra addresses as approved addresses where you won't get messages but can send messages to our list. A number of you have already given us extra addresses. Messages from people trying to reach members of this list from the archives and looking for help we expect to be discarded automatically too. Diane has proposed a way we could still see these messages, but we haven't heard from ibiblio back to know if this is an alternative. This change will save us time, especially Diane, but will mean that there are people we will no longer be able to help. I think back to those early days of the Internet when you didn't need a firewall, didn't have to worry about viruses or other evil plans to steal your identity and/or wreck your computer, and when you didn't receive all kinds of messages you don't want to get. Mary sue