Peony Chameleons - problem
John Grimshaw (Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:19:02 PDT)

I agree entirely with Jim Waddick: these names are confusing and, as we all
know, in horticulture the precise formulation (and pronunciation) of a name
is very seldom given, so to aver differences based on the technicalities of
authors and spelling is a red herring (or perhaps a blushing chameleon).

John Grimshaw

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----- Original Message -----
From: "James Waddick" <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Peony Chameleons - problem

Actually Jim, I'm inclined to say that this is one of those situations
where
we will simply have to agree to disagree.

Dear Jim and All,
I thought I'd just ignore this, but will
make a response, probably against my better
judgement.
Jim, I do not agree to disagree at all,
because mostly I am right and mostly you are
wrong.

Both names are in the same 'Designation
Group' (as per ICNCP) as assigned by the ISHS to
each ICRA. The second name should never have been
approved.

Cultivar names are rarely cited in detail
and few would pronounce the names differently
enough to dispel confusion.

The name confusion comes up more often than you'd imagine, obviously.

There is a very obvious problem, and it
is a good example only of a bad registration
practice.

We are stuck with this and my trying to
explain this to you obviously failed.

I hope other readers see this in its correct light.

Good luck. Jim W.

To begin with, when each name is properly cited there is minimal chance of
confusion.

There is no way to prevent people from formatting the names incorrectly and
becoming confused

Furthermore, careful speakers pronounce the words chameleon and chamaeleon
differently.

For me, the clincher would be the high degree of improbability that these
two names would be found in the same discussion

I don't see a problem with maintaining both names. Indeed, it's a good
training example for people learning the differences among the various
sorts
of nomenclature we use.

Jim McKenney

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