Jacob, Dylan, and all, Haemanthus coccineus seems to be a rather variable species. I've never seen the coccineus form the Eastern Cape, but I have four different types, from Bainskloof, Gifberg, Richterveld, and near Bredasdorp in the Western Cape and Northern Cape provinces. Leaf shapes differ from almost round to longer and narrower. I say the mottled/speckled leaf form of coccineus in the Little Karoo Botanical Garden at Wochester. Unfortunately, I could not talk Ian out of an offset! The plants I saw on a farm between Vanrhynsdorp and Nieuwoudtville, high in the Western Escarpment, and huge leaves, almost round -- not like the Gifberg plants, although the Gifberg is visible to the west from there. Regards, Jim Shields ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA