Hi all, I agree with Bob Pries, let's not get into the politics of climate change. The science of climate change is different from Newtonian physics, which seems pretty cut and dried to most of us at this point -- unless we start moving at relativistic speeds, then Newton fails us. Science is never absolute, it works by building a series of ever-better approximations. The computer models for climate change are certainly not perfect, and a recent article suggested that there is a theoretical limit to how accurate they can ever become. Climate is, after all, one of those mathematically chaotic systems. Our so-far brief tenure as rational, scientific residents of this planet also limits the length of our set of precise data. We can't even be sure that the Northern Hemisphere climate tracks the Southern Hemisphere climate very closely, or vice versa. I did see one suggested mechanism for increased ice mass on Antarctica as a result of global warming: Warmer world, warmer oceans, therefore more moisture in the atmosphere overall. The coldest spot on the planet is usually the South Pole, so a lot of the extra moisture ends up condensing out and falling there as snow. Seems to work for me, but is not necessarily important to where and how my bulbs are going to grow in the future. They don't grow in Antarctica anyway. "If" and "How" the climate is changing are quite relevant to us a plant people. Are our beloved bulbs going to face greater and greater environmental/climate threats as time goes on? Can we do anything to preserve threatened species of bulbs? These are points we could and I think we should be addressing, here and in all plant groups. Best wishes, Jim Shields in central Indiana where the weather is about to change (again) from summer to winter ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA