Like Chris Whitehouse I am very familiar with Kniphofia thomsonii in the wild in Kenya and Tanzania, and have also grown it in the garden for the past 15 yrs or so. Two varieties are recognised: var. thomsonii, widespread, with glabrous corollas, and var. snowdenii (western Kenya, eastern Uganda) with papillose corollas, giving a unique, curiously hairy look. Typical var. snowdenii looks very different to var. thomsonii, but at least in the Cherangani Hills of western Kenya they intermingle and intergrade and one can find plants with only slightly papillose corollas. It is usually orange-flowered (opening from dull red buds) but can be yellow - a good 'hairy' yellow one appeared in seedlings raised from a collection I made in 1998 and I believe is still in cultivation in western England. I have a couple of orange 'hairy' clones here. Var. thomsonii grows in open places in the upper parts of the Afromontane forest on the East African mountains, and extends out into the ericaceous/grassland vegetation, almost into true alpine territory. In the forest it is usually stoloniferous in the grass & among other herbs, with loose racemes of usually orange flowers from red buds. It can be up to 1.5-1.8 m tall in lush places in the forest, but 40-50 cm is more usual. Above the treeline it tends to be more clump-forming, and the inflorescences are tighter and more poker-like. On Kilimanjaro at least I have seen it with good red flowers all the way down, at the edge of the alpine zone at about 3400 m, and at about 2700 m in grassland with yellow flowers. I grew this clone until last year, but lost it last winter when I didn't get it established in a pot early enough. It's a frustrating plant to grow, not being quite hardy enough, and not being quite rewarding enough, to make it worth persevering with. Over the years I've grown material from southern Tanzania through to Mt Kenya & they've all slipped away. The two Cherangani clones of var. snowdenii I still have are maintained in pots in the polytunnel, although I have clumps outside as well at present. Not one inflorescence in 2008! The species in general is very stoloniferous, which makes it handy for propagating, but few of the shoots ever get robust enough to flower, it seems. The usual clone in cultivation has been called K. snowdenii for decades - I think it was introduced originally by Patrick Synge from Mt Elgon in the 1930s, but it has perfectly glabrous corollas, so is var. thomsonii. It also has paler orange flowers than most. It is hardy in a warm sheltered place and has certainly managed persist all this time. Ethiopian Kniphofia are in a mess and neither Marais' Kew Bulletin article on Tropical African Kniphofia nor the more recent accounts in Flora of Ethiopia and Eritrea, and in the little book Flowers of Ethiopia & Eritrea: Aloes and other Lilies (S. Demissew et al. 2003), are very useful. They all include two quite different species under the name K. foliosa. The problem, I presume, is that Kniphofia make terrible herbarium specimens. Once my current book is out of the way my first project will be to attempt to work out what is going on there and I have blocked out 3 weeks of the diary for next autumn in the hope of being able to afford to go to Ethiopia for some fieldwork when they're flowering in late September. I grow one of the two taxa here - it has survived two winters outside in reasonably good shape, and in a milder garden than here might actually do quite well in southern England. I am not familiar with the cultivated stock of K. foliosa mentioned by Chris, but wouldn't trust the identity of any poker without wild provenance for a moment. John Grimshaw Dr. John M. Grimshaw Sycamore Cottage Colesbourne Cheltenham Gloucestershire GL53 9NP Tel. 01242 870567