Dear Friends, It has been a while since I grew any of these, but I am recommending these to a friend with a new Terrarium. Can anyone suggest a good source and modest price for common cvs? or seeds? Thanks. Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +