I have some experience with South African winter-growing bulbs doing the hemisphere-switch. Elizabeth Scholtz, Director Emeritus of the Brooklyn Botanic Garden (and incredible global garden diplomat!) is a native of South Africa and would bring me newly-dormant winter-growers in Nov. and Dec. from Cape Town and Kirstenbosch. They were definitely reluctant to switch; I handled as Alberto suggested with a gritty, very free-draining mix, watered in once, keep cool with my other winter growers in a cool greenhouse (50F night; 62F day) and wait for signs of activity. Some would struggle into growth at the end of the cool season (Feb.-early April). Keep them growing as long as possible (June?) and then I'd try to get them started the following Oct.-Nov. with the rest of the winter-growers we had. Some would do well, others struggled, some couldn't make it. Ixias and Sparaxis did OK, Gladioules spp. less well. With Lachenalias, I often had better plants at year 3 from seed than I did trying to get bulbs imported from the southern hemisphere "over the equator". Good luck. Scott Canning Wave Hill Zone 6 with a cool greenhouse in the Bronx -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:21 PM To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6 Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.ibiblio.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbslist/> Today's Topics: 1. Cryptostephanus Q? (James Waddick) 2. Re: Crinum & Fritillaria (James Waddick) 3. BX 192 dormant or ??? (James Waddick) 4. Dell's listed seed donations (info@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org) 5. Re: BX 192 dormant or ??? (Alberto Castillo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 15:04:40 -0600 From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> Subject: [pbs] Cryptostephanus Q? To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <p0624082cc55df51ff5e8@[192.168.1.100]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Dear Friends, I had a question from a person in Germany who responded to comments on this web site. I suggested he join the group, but is thinking about it. He asks " Is Cryptostephanus densiflorus in cultivation?". As you surely know there are three species in this genus. The commonest is Cryptostephanus vansonii and it looks like a miniature Clivia miniata with white (or pink) flowers. Far less common is Cryptostephanus haemanthoides, a very different looking bulbous plants of semi-desert locations. A very few nurseries offer bulbs. The third and rarest species is Cryptostephanus densiflorus endemic to a small area of Angola. Harold Koopowitz in his book on Clivia suggests it is not in cultivation. Angola has enough social turmoil that it is not open to much botanizing. Can anyone provide an update on this species? Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F + ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:06:03 -0600 From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Crinum & Fritillaria To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <p06240839c55e66e39fc3@[192.168.1.100]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Dear Iain, A small typo. The real url is: http://www.fritillariaicones.com/ Some real beauties there. Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F + ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:11:44 -0600 From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> Subject: [pbs] BX 192 dormant or ??? To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <p0624083ac55e674fb8f2@[192.168.1.100]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >18. Oxalis gracilis (W). T >19. Oxalis purpurea 'Garnet' (W). >20. Oxalis compressa, double form (W). Dear Friends, These bulbs were offered in BX 192. Any suggestions on how to handle these dormant bulbs? They were donated by Alberto Castillo in the Southern Hemisphere and dormant during his summer. Now moved to the Northern Hemisphere, these winter growers are still 'dormant'. They should be in active growth here and now. Should they be planted now and watered or held dry for a few months to complete their dormancy, then planted and allowed to have a short growth period before a long summer dormancy? Curious. Any experiences moving winter growing bulbs from the southern hemisphere to the northern? Thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F + ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:55:04 -0000 From: <info@auchgourishbotanicgarden.org> Subject: [pbs] Dell's listed seed donations To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <32FF6F2A153C4F73803AD525BF32ECD3@homepc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could I point out a wee small error in provenance info, i.e. # 19 the location in New Foundland is Cape Fear, [with good reason to the earlier mariners] NOT Cape Spear. I have this taxon here and it is a lovely and floriferous iris growing to about 30-40 cms planted with me in virtually pure sand, the clump originally of three plants vegetatively increases rather slowly = well behaved, but seeds around quite prolifically = not well behaved if the subject of weeding becomes a trial. This iris will take any level of cold thrown at it, didn't blink at -26C. Iain -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 36414 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len/ The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:00:57 +0000 From: Alberto Castillo <ezeizabotgard@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] BX 192 dormant or ??? To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Message-ID: <BLU104-W36951FF43638DDA0A116DEAEFE0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Jim: These corms and bulbs I am sending have been dormant for a month or so under very hot conditions. My advice is pot up in very gritty soil give them a first watering take the pots to a cool place with very good light say at 10 C wait, they should resprout during your winter and resume growth according to your Hemisphere they are likely to keep on growing well beyond your spring, do not force them to go dormant. The longer the season of growth the bigger the bulbs and corms obtained. Hope this is of help Best Alberto > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 23:11:44 -0600> To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> From: jwaddick@kc.rr.com> Subject: [pbs] BX 192 dormant or ???> > >18. Oxalis gracilis (W). T> >19. Oxalis purpurea 'Garnet' (W).> >20. Oxalis compressa, double form (W).> > > Dear Friends,> These bulbs were offered in BX 192.> > Any suggestions on how to handle these dormant bulbs? They > were donated by Alberto Castillo in the Southern Hemisphere and > dormant during his summer. Now moved to the Northern Hemisphere, > these winter growers are still 'dormant'. They should be in active > growth here and now.> > > Should they be planted now and watered or held dry for a few > months to complete their dormancy, then planted and allowed to have a > short growth period before a long summer dormancy?> > > Curious. Any experiences moving winter growing bulbs from the > southern hemisphere to the northern?> > Thanks Jim W.> > -- > Dr. James W. Waddick> 8871 NW Brostrom Rd.> Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711> USA> Ph. 8 16-746-1949> Zone 5 Record low -23F> Summer 100F +> > _______________________________________________> pbs mailing list> pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php> http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ _________________________________________________________________ Disfrut? los mejores contenidos en MSN Video. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=es-xl ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php End of pbs Digest, Vol 71, Issue 6 **********************************