In a message dated 11/26/2002 4:19:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, theotherjen8@yahoo.com writes: >Where do you all get the sand you use to encourage good draining for South African >bulbs? Look for "septic sand", coarse, no fines, excellent drainage. Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, CT 06755-0142 http://www.therapyshapes.com/ USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue