Ken and Jim I have two Cyrtanthus hybrids, the one is also elatus x montanus, a more or less upward-facing flower head with open flowers, and a prolific bulbil-producer, given to me by a friend. The other looks just like the one Ken has on the web site, parentage not quite clear, but it is a hybrid called 'Venus' bred and distributed a few years ago by Hadeco in SA. I bought bulbs in a supermarket. It tends to have feint streaks in the leaves and I haven't yet decided if it is virussed or not. Do your leaves show this tendency? Mine have been like that ever since I got them, but they have been growing well and flowering well for about three years now. It also multiplies well, but not as fast as the elatus x montanus. 'Venus' is flowering here at the moment, so I will ask Cameron to photograph it with his digital camera and send it to IBS Images. Give us a day or two! Both these hybrids never set seed, despite careful hand pollination. Herbertia 1997 Vol 52, p. 159 mentions F. Holford as having done many crosses, apparently also montanus x elatus. I wonder if 'Venus' isn't the same cross mentioned on p. 158 between elatus x fergusoniae. Graham Duncan at Kirstenbosch has made this cross too, and says it retains the vegetative habit of elatus (Veld & Flora Vol. 76,3 1990). Rhoda E. Cape