See Paul Christian's bulb list (Wales, UK) http://www.rareplants.co.uk/daubenya/ Pat Bender I was going to mention Paul Christian's list, because even though his prices are really expensive, at least he has them and they're northern hemisphere grown. But when I go to his latest catalog listings, he isn't listing them in the 2002 catalog pages. (Even though you can apparently go directly to the Daubenya page if you know the URL separately.) If you'll notice, the Daubenya page hasn't been updated since November of 2000. So I don't know if you can purchase them this year. -- --Lee Poulsen Pasadena area, California, USDA Zone 9-10 Pacific Bulb Society - Treasurer wpoulsen@pacbell.net