Ken, My Cyrtanthus (elatus X montanus) bulbs came from the IBS BX in June 1999. They were probably from Bill Dijk, but I can't recall exactly. In any case, my plants bloom with wider flaring upright flowers than yours, but with the same sort of brick red color. Maybe we should swap offsets one of these days (when it's warmer here). I'll post a pic to the Bulbs_Images list sometime soon. Regards, Jim ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW http//http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. +1-317-896-3925