If you upgrade, Jane, download a simple bit of software called UBitMenu which changes MS 10 back to the look of drop-down menus. If I hadn't had this, I would have gone insane! My tech says Windows 10 is it, so we'll see. I have it now and it does annoy me from time to time, but Janet installed it with options to keep it looking as much like 7 as possible since I don't have an 'app' phone, just what is now called a 'dumb' phone. You're not alone in preferring desktop vs. laptop. I have an ancient laptop I take with me on trips but almost never use it at home. It doesn't seem to mind hibernating for long stretches... I do have the Rock Garden book and use it for the reasons you mention. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…