There may be advances in hybridization coming out of China, but if I see China as the origin of any seed, I dismiss it as fraud. That goes for roses, hibiscus, bulbs, just anything. Since it takes longer to get the first flower than the money-back guarantee is for, it makes no sense to throw money away on any of these. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…