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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Wiki Additions--Calydorea, Habranthus (German Roitman)
2. Asking for a hint of world map of chilling hours Please?
(Fierycloud)
3. Pacific BX 163 (Dell Sherk)
4. Re: Wiki Additions--Calydorea, Habranthus (J.E. Shields)
5. Re: Wiki Additions--Calydorea, Habranthus (Mary Sue Ittner)
6. Wiki Additions-Calochortus (meg570@comcast.net)
7. Re: One is the loneliest... (Cameron McMaster)
8. Nerine sarniensis and Guernsey (Jim McKenney)
9. Re: Wiki Additions-Calochortus (Mary Sue Ittner)
10. Re: Wiki Additions-Calochortus (Jim McKenney)
11. Re: Asking for a hint of world map of chilling hours Please?
(John Grimshaw)
12. Re: Moraea hiemalis seed (Ronald Redding)
13. Re: Wiki Additions-Calochortus (Douglas Westfall)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:40:48 -0300
From: German Roitman <ggroiti@mail.agro.uba.ar>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions--Calydorea, Habranthus
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.1.20080103092137.01c87288@mail.agro.uba.ar>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

Hello

Thanks Mary Sue for comunicate this additions,
here are the links for the articles:

<http://agro.uba.ar/users/roitman/…>http://agro.uba.ar/users/roitman/…

http://agro.uba.ar/users/roitman/…

During 2006 we have also published an article
about the presence of Habranthus cardenasianus in
Argentina, i have add two pictures and a brief text in the habranthus
page.

<http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…>http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…

http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…

The article is also available here:

<http://agro.uba.ar/users/roitman/…>http://agro.uba.ar/users/roitman/…

During the next months there will be some news
about Iridaceae and Amaryllidaceae from South America.

Best wishes

Germ?n

At 14:39 02/01/2008, you wrote:

_________________________
Ing. Agr. MSc. Germ?n Roitman
Director Carrera de Jardiner?a
FAUBA
_________________________

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 21:25:03 +0800
From: "Fierycloud" <fierycloud2002@yahoo.com.tw>
Subject: [pbs] Asking for a hint of world map of chilling hours
Please?
To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <77B28D0D91E14EB6BA25D08F6CB16A04@2F1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5"

Happy New Year:

I'm looking for the whole-world version of the chilling hours map.
http://raintreenursery.com/indexpics/…

Could someone give me a hint please?
I would like to try the bulbous species which might have less chilling
hours than the others.

And sorry that I just can't find a original map from the university. Only
from the commercial web.

Kind Regards

It's our coldest time in a year. 12 C around 53.6 F
Fierycloud, Taiwan (USDA Z11+ , AHS Z12+)

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:21:59 -0500
From: "Dell Sherk" <dells@voicenet.com>
Subject: [pbs] Pacific BX 163
To: "'Adam Fikso'" <adam14113@ameritech.net>, "'c'"
<CathyCraigEA@hotmail.com>, "'Macfarlane'" <macfarla@almaden.ibm.com>,
"'Mark'" <Antennaria@aol.com>, "'Mark Wilcox'" <marque219@yahoo.com>,
"Pat Colville" <Pat.Colville@JHResearchUSA.com>, "PBS list"
<pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>, "The Masterson Family" <masterson4@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20080103142216.554774C010@lists.ibiblio.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear All,

The items listed below have been donated by our members to be
shared.

If you are interested in obtaining some of them, please email me
PRIVATELY
at <dells@voicenet.com>. Include "BX 163" in the subject line.

Specify the NUMBERS of the items which you would like; do not
specify quantities. It is a good idea to include your snail mail address,
too, in case I don't already have it. Availability is based on a first
come,
first served system. When you receive your seeds/bulbs you will find,
included with them, a statement of how much money (usually $2.00/item)
(cash, check, or Pay Pal to <Arnold@NJ.rr.com>; no money orders, please)
you
should send the PBS treasurer to defray our costs for packing and
first-class, priority-mail, or international postage.

PLEASE NOTE: NEW POSTAL-RATE SCHEMES NECESSITATE OUR PLACING A SURCHARGE
ON
EACH ORDER FROM PBS BX OFFERINGS.

Some of you are members of the online PBS discussion forum but are not
members of the Pacific Bulb Society. THIS BX OFFERING IS AVAILABLE ONLY TO
MEMBERS OF THE PBS. Consider joining the PBS so that you can take
advantage
of future offers such as this. Go to our website:

<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/> ....

If you would like to donate seeds or bulbs/corms to the
PBS,(Donors
will receive credit on the BX for the cost of postage for their
donations.),
please send CLEAN, clearly labeled material to:

Dell Sherk

6832 Phillips Mill Rd.

New Hope, PA, 18938

USA

I WILL REPLY TO YOU WITHIN 24 HRS OF MY RECEIPT OF YOUR ORDER.
IF YOU DO NOT HEAR FROM ME, TRY AGAIN !!

From Jerry Flintoff:

SEED:

1. Fritillaria raddeana

2. Lilium ex. 'Early Bird' (martagon-hansonii hybrid)

3. Calochortus amoenus, white form

4. Gladiolus longicollis

From Ton de Waard:

5. Small corms of Crocosmia, orange flowers, 2 ft tall. Original corms
were
w/c on Madeira 12 yrs ago. Hardy to Zone 7. May be 'Lady Wilson'

SEED:

6. Dahlia, mixed dark-leafed hybrids

7. Dahlia 'Pooh'

8. Cyclamen creticum

9. Tigridia pavonia, red

10. Mirabilis jalapa, red or pink

Thank you, Jerry and Ton !!

Best wishes,

Dell

Dell Sherk, Director, PBS BX

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:34:02 -0500
From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions--Calydorea, Habranthus
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20080103092340.02750790@pop.indy.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

Hi all,

I want to thank Germ?n for posting links to the PDF files of his
articles. I would be most grateful if all authors would provide us with
such convenient access to their original papers.

Best regards,
Jim Shields
in very cold, snowy central Indiana (USA)

At 09:40 AM 1/3/2008 -0300, you wrote:

*************************************************
Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd.
P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/
Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA
Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:01:17 -0800
From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions--Calydorea, Habranthus
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20080103085103.034a8c68@mail.mcn.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed

Hi,

I've added links for the Calydorea and Habranthus articles to the wiki so
they will be easily accessible to all. Thanks so much to Germ?n for making
them available. I invite you to look at the Habranthus wiki page:
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
when you look at the new pictures of Habranthus cardenasianus as the links
that Germ?n so kindly gave you are not going to work.

Mary Sue

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:41:46 +0000
From: meg570@comcast.net
Subject: [pbs] Wiki Additions-Calochortus
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Message-ID:
<010320081741.19148.477D1E5A00061FEC00004ACC2200750744CFC9CA090A03@comcast.net>

Content-Type: text/plain

I have added a number of new Calochortus photos to the PBS website,
including many of the Mexican species. Many thanks to Mary Sue Ittner for
guiding me through the logistics of posting these, as well as for making
some additional Calochortus pages. I will add more Calochortus photos over
the next few weeks
The additions are here
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…
http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…

Mary Gerritsen

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:48:48 +0200
From: "Cameron McMaster" <cameron@haznet.co.za>
Subject: Re: [pbs] One is the loneliest...
To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <009301c84e39$da7a7520$213dd0c4@mcmasterdae8d5>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Jim wrote: Ipheion uniflorum as the name suggests should have a single
flower per fan of foliage. I think so. Does anyone have an alternate
experience? Does it ever have 2 or more per ?

Two 'lonely' species I can think of off-hand are Disa uniflora and
Baeometra uniflora - both are most likely to have more than one flower!

Rhoda

Napier, SA, with Cyrtanthus carneus, Thereianthus bracteolus, Aristea
oligocephala and Tritoniopsis unguicularis flowering in the wild, and
Watsonia schlechteri about to flower.

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:30:26 -0500
From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com>
Subject: [pbs] Nerine sarniensis and Guernsey
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <003001c84e3f$1a7d13d0$2f01a8c0@Library>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

A local friend and I have been emailing back and forth this morning on the
subject of Nerine culture. This was prompted by her mention of another
friend who grows Nerine.

One outcome of this was my being given a link to Nerine on the
PlantzAfrica
site, in particular to an article written by Graham Duncan. In that
article,
Duncan casts doubt on the story that Nerine sarniensis was introduced to
Guernsey as flotsam (or was it as jetsam?) in the mid-seventeenth century.
Here's the link to the article.

http://plantzafrica.com/plantnop/…

Does anyone know what the evidence is for this doubt?

The reason I'm asking is that I know that the story of the shipwreck and
the
Nerine has been told since at least the last decades of the seventeenth
century. In other words, the story dates at least from the period about
thirty years after the actual shipwreck event, from a time when it seems
reasonable to assume there were still those who remembered the events in
question.

Jim McKenney

jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com

Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where the temperature has
not
gotten above the freezing point yet today.

My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/

BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/

Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS

Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/

Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:29:38 -0800
From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions-Calochortus
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20080103110856.02cd2478@mail.mcn.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

In case some of you have not made the connection, Mary Gerritsen is one of
the authors of the Calochortus book published this year by Timber
Press. It includes descriptions, color photos, habitat and cultivation
information about every major group and species. Mary has spent
considerable time adding a lot of really valuable information about this
genus to the wiki and resizing and renaming her pictures so they could be
added to the wiki. Most of her pictures were taken in habitat as she has
traveled to find the different species. New species added are Calochortus
balsensis, Calochoruts cernus, Calochortus davidsonianus, Calochortus
exilis, Calochortus fuscus, Calochortus greenei, Calochortus
hartwegii, Calochortus leichtlinnii, Calochortus mendozae, Calochortus
nigrescens, Calochortus ownbeyi, Calochortus persistens, Calochortus
pringlei, Calochortus purpureus, Calochortus spatulatus, and Calochortus
subalpinus. In addition she has added habitat shots of some of the species
already on the wiki. And there is more to come. For Calochortus
enthusiasts
everywhere it is wonderful to have this information be so readily
available. Thank you Mary.

Mary Sue

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:37:56 -0500
From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions-Calochortus
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <003501c84e40$24b9d0d0$2f01a8c0@Library>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks, Mary Gerritsen, for posting those images. I'm a newbie with
Calochortus, but the few I've grown have me hooked.

Some of them look a lot like frits at first glance, and something about
the
small dark red ones, especially Calochortus pringlei, remind me of the
"chocolate cosmos".

Hmmm...I wonder if I can make room for an expanded Calochortus collection
beside the Fritillaria collection?

Jim McKenney
jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com
Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where Crocus pallasii and
C.
ochroleucus are in bloom in a cold frame.
My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/
BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/

Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS
Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/

Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 21:01:55 -0000
From: "John Grimshaw" <j.grimshaw@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Asking for a hint of world map of chilling hours
Please?
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <034201c84e4b$e036a350$0201a8c0@John>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="big5";
reply-type=original

Fierycloud:

Please could you tell us the units measured by the thermoclines on the map
of chilling hours - so many hours at how many degrees? It was impossible
to
tell from the image.

John Grimshaw

Dr John M. Grimshaw
Sycamore Cottage
Colesbourne
Nr Cheltenham
Gloucestershire GL53 9NP

Tel. 01242 870567

COLESBOURNE PARK SNOWDROP OPEN DAYS 2008
January 26/27 and every Saturday & Sunday in February
Gates open 1pm, last entry 4 pm
website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fierycloud" <fierycloud2002@yahoo.com.tw>
To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: [pbs] Asking for a hint of world map of chilling hours Please?

Happy New Year:

I'm looking for the whole-world version of the chilling hours map.
http://raintreenursery.com/indexpics/…

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:22:51 +1000
From: Ronald Redding <ron_redding@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Moraea hiemalis seed
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <BAY108-W38415851EBF3FECBB5487E94530@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Rogan

I don't want any seeds, I don't think my climate would be very helpful in
preserving these plants, however I just wanted to say I have been touched
by your generosity and the effort you have gone to in order to share these
seeds.Kind Regards and Best WishesRon ReddingHervey BayAustralia

_________________________________________________________________
What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE
http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx/…

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:46:53 -0800
From: Douglas Westfall <eagle85@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Wiki Additions-Calochortus
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <061F8B08-540C-4F60-8303-124C26449BAC@flash.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Mary Sue and Mary Gerritsen,

The pages are fantastic!!! While I have grown some Calochortus (one
pic. in the group) I had NO IDEA that there are so many in the family.
The pictures are almost enough to make me give up my Haemanthus and
Scadoxus.

Doug Westfall

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