Mark asked Jim ,any chance of a list of your "collection"? Well, here it is, more or less. It's not much of a collection, Mark, and there is nothing in my collection which would be of interest to a confirmed galanthomane. I've been out of the loop for a long time. Here's a list of about two dozen forms which either have cultivar names or home made "pet" names. The names in single quotes ' are standard cultivars; the names in double quotes " are cultivars selected in the garden and are simply my pet names not meant to be taken seriously by others. Botanical names are in italics. 'Cornelia': this grew here for years before finally blooming; it has now bloomed three years in a row, but the flowers are often malformed, sometimes perfect 'Lady Beatrix Stanley': this double has been very reliable 'Sam Arnott': two clumps which seem identical except that one has occasionally thrown double scapes in the style attributed to 'Straffan'. Pictures have not helped me with this one. 'Benthall Beauty' 'Atkinsii' (the deformed one) "golden Atkinsii" a sometimes yellow form which appeared here several years ago fosteri byzantinus "tuning fork" an elwesii selection made here with green markings in the shape of that implement; this might be worthy of wider distribution. It has very broad tepals which are short and thus rounded; there is a hint of the seersucker effect seen in 'Augustus'. I've had trouble building up stock of this one because a family member makes a bee line to it when it is in bloom and pulls the flowers with its leaves. It stands out that well! "Thanksgiving" an elwesii selection made here which ofen blooms in late November (our Thanksgiving holiday) "Christmas" an elwesii selection made here which often blooms at Christmas 'Augustus': a favorite for the seersucker effect seen on the outer tepals and also the broad foliage 'Scharlockii': my stock is either mixed with 'Viridapicis' or mutates back and forth to a form like it. Years ago this stock collapsed and went into a steep decline. Very slowly it recovered, but when the recovered plants began to bloom again the flowers seemed to be intermediate between the two cultivars mentioned. Sometimes the divided spathe characteristic of Scharlockii appears, sometimes the spathe is simply deformed, and sometimes is is more or less normal. "as Magnet": this might be true to name but I'm not sure "caucasicus" = elwesii of the monostictus sort, several clones not much alike but some have the biggest flowers and foliage of any Galanthus I've grown. One in particular I call "Bassett hound" because of the huge drooping tepals and another I call "helicopter" because in warmth the tepals stand out horizontally like the blades of a helicopter. When mature, the foliage of these plants suggests that of young Allium stipitatum: it's that big! woronowii plicatus received as "Warham" but I'm uncertain nivalis small with narrow foliage nivalis broader foliage, taller, perhaps a named cultivar which has lost its ID nivalis with double flowers indet: bright green foliage (i.e. not glaucous) indet: narrow foliage, short, does not bloom: this is another stock which collapsed years ago and has very slowly built up strength, but not enough to bloom. indet: shapely blooms, foliage late to emerge, another cultivar which has lost its name, perhaps a plicatus cultivar to judge from the foliage. After growing here for years, the following disappeared the year before last: 'Allenii': 'Robin Hood' I've used several of the snowdrop sites (including yours, Mark) now on the web to help sort out my collection. But even with that help, I have sorts which I have not pinned down yet. Also, years ago several hundred Galanthus elwesii were planted in the lawn. When these plants bloomed it was apparent that they were wild collected and extremely variable in terms of their green markings and bloom dates. The three listed as ":Thanksgiving" "Christmas" and "tuning fork" are from this lot, but numerous other forms could easily be separated. There are some with elongated ovaries which are very distinct. Others are confusingly like the elwesii cultivars I see on web sites. I just put up a temporary web page to show you some of these. Please take a look at: http://jimmckenney.com/some_snowdrop_selections_fr… Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where witch hazels, wintersweet, Galanthus elwesii and Helleborus foetidus are all blooming. My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/