>Cameron gave me permission to add the picture to the wiki Dear Mary Sue; Thanks to Cameron for permission. The colors and form of the two species are so different from my mental picture of Tulbhagias. Wow. And no picture of T. simmleri (much discussed on these pages). best and thanks Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +