Dear members: A new website devoted to lilies/Lilium was recently posted, by a New Zealand dweller. (http://www.deflorum.com/) There is some controversy, it is slow to load, with white lettering on a black background. The information on lilium species is incomplete or partly incorrect. Hopefully the owner will accept the challenge and make some changes. A couple of the species listed were Lilium zairi, buschianum. Among the Lilium species listed on the deFlorum site (listed on the "Unlisted" page) is L. zairii. This name has come up a couple times of late. There are a couple things worth mentioning. First, it would be the only Lilium species ever found south of the equator. Second, about 40-50 years ago, one of the contributors to the NALS Yearbook (Probably Beryl Reynolds of South Africa) mentioned that Lilium phillipinense and L. formosanum were so well adapted that they had seeded far from any garden (I seem to remember 300 miles). The lilies were colonizing so successfully that it/they had been declared a noxious weed. I haven't taken the time to review Beryl Reynolds' contributions to the yearbook yet, but if anyone is interested, could probably make time. l. zairii (not listed at ipcni) Mynett, K. and Mackiewicz, H. 1986. LILIUM ZAIRII - A NEW LILIUM FORMOSANUM TYPE FOUND IN ZAIRE. Acta Hort. (ISHS) 177:667-668 http://www.actahort.org/books/177/177_119.htm Another name listed on the "Unlisted" page was Lilium buschianum Lilium Buschianum http://infochembio.ethz.ch/links/en/… Photos: http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query/… http://webguru.com/lilium-species-alternans-throug… LILIUM concolor sinicum (Chinese). A synonym of LILIUM c. Buschianum. I'm not a botanist, but sometimes I can add two and two and get something resembling four. I would welcome comments. Ken