I have at least two customers in the upper Midwest (zone 4) who claim C. goulimyi winters reliably for them. Are there any zone 4/5 gardeners on this list who have had good luck with this species (Jim Shields, perhaps?)? At 10:35 PM 10/17/2010, Jim Waddick wrote: When I lived in a more protected inner city garden, I grew C. goulimyi for a few years. I love the exquisite shape of the flower in side view. Like a champagne goblet and that color is great. The wiki pix just don't do this justice >http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > I wish it were just a bit hardier. I love > it. Enjoy yours. Jim Russell Stafford Odyssey Bulbs PO Box 382 South Lancaster, MA 01561 508-335-8106 http://www.odysseybulbs.com/