Hi Aaron, I am located in Orange County, Southern California. Yes, I was wondering it should flower soon after 3 years, however I suspect to put them in 8 inches community pot from the beginning was no good for them to flower. There were other in the smaller individual pot,and the plants were not that big, hopefully some of them will flower next year, by then I will show you the flower. I also have few plants that are leopard Manfreda (bought the seeds from Strange Wonderful Things) These red dots on the leaves are not so obvious, but they are nice looking compare to M. scabra. Best regards, Andy ________________________________ From: aaron floden <aaron_floden@yahoo.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 6:27:45 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Manfreda sp comonfort B&T likely got theirs from Mesa anyway, so the location should be the same. No matter, I would not hesitate calling your plant M. scabra for the time being. When it flowers key it out. I believe Shinners treatment for Polianthes (=Manfreda) or one of the Mexican flora's are online, though slightly outdated. Where are you located? After three years I would expect flowers if potted on twice in their first year and then planted out or into 1 gallon containers. Polianthes are another matter. Aaron Knoxville, Tennessee --- On Thu, 9/30/10, kuang huang <latsyrc18940@yahoo.com> wrote: From: kuang huang <latsyrc18940@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [pbs] Manfreda sp comonfort To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010, 1:22 PM Aaron, the seeds were not from B&T World, I just found out it was Mesa Garden that I got the seeds from. When I look over their seed catalog, there weren't any Manfreda seeds. Since I bought the seeds in 2007, perhaps the seeds are all sold out. Andy