David Trout wrote: “I received some L. leichtlinii maximowiczii in a bulb swap a couple of years ago, where there were called simply "red tiger". I quite enjoyed the detective work, (made exponentially easier by the internet), involved in figuring out what they are.” David, I hope that if you ever decide to distribute those bulbs you will include their history with the bulbs. There are primary hybrids involving Lilium leichtlinii which very closely resemble that species. The ones I’m aware of are older hybrids long out of commerce. I would not want the job of saying with certainty that a given lily of unrecorded provenance which looks like Lilium leichtlinii is in fact that species. Oddly, neither the orange-flowered form nor the yellow-flowered form was ever common in commerce after the Second World War. More recently the names often appear on lists, but I think circumspection is in order. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/