There are some mole baits with zinc phosphide that are probably better for most rodents because they limit the collateral damage to cats and raptors. Most other poisons are slow enough that the rodents are easy to capture for a day or two and endup being eaten by hawks. For a while I entertained myself and others by greasing the steel poles supporting the birdfeeders. The squirrels would jump up about 4 feet and try to climb but slowly slide down like little firemen. You had to add more vaseline every week but it was worth it to see squirrels as pissed as I had been. Eventually they started to undermine the steel pole so I stopped feeding the birds. Tim _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>