Sorry for the trouble, Karl, the mail program clipped the last letter off the URL (it also added two returns after every paragraph, which annoys me). Here's a shortened web address for the 2014 summary. Give it a try: http://bit.ly/1ecG6Ml/ Leo, your excellent note on transposons is exactly the sort of information I'm looking for. Unfortunately, most of the books I've found in the library are either totally theoretical, focus on breeding barley, or are so general that they aren't useful. I'd love to find a practical, applied guide to hybridizing ornamentals. If anyone has suggestions, I'm all ears. And Karl, I am glad to give you any advice I can, and can set you up with offsets and seeds this summer. Drop me an e-mail privately and we'll follow up. Thanks, Mike