Hi, John Grimshaw asked me to add his picture of Ornithogalum secundum to the wiki and I have done so: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… All my books say it is yellow with green keels. The Namaqualand field guide doesn't have a picture of it however, choosing instead to have a picture of the leaves that look like Crossyne leaves to me and are described as strap-shaped with minutely fringed translucent margins arranged in a rosette lying flat on the ground. The drawing in the Spring and Winter Flowering Bulbs of the Cape shows leaves that are erect and the description is the same. The leaves in the two book don't look at all alike. The leaves are apparently gone at flowering. I'm really curious what the leaves look like on John's plants. I have a number of photographs of species we saw in Namaqualand last September and haven't added them to the wiki since I have no clue what species they are and they aren't quite like any in my field guide. Anyone in our group good at identifying Ornithogalum species who might be able to help me sort them out? I'd like to comment also on Paul Tyerman's lament about the one season of his orange Ornithogalum dubiums. I've had similar problems and yellow ones I bought never flowered again so my yellow ones were not better. Last year I unpotted all I had that had including the ones that were not coming up and put them in trays upstairs in my house (the warmest spot in summer). I was thinking of tossing them and didn't get around to potting them for a long time and when I looked at some of them they had tiny roots on the bottom. So I potted the ones up that seemed to be rooting and had more blooming this year than usual. I was told in South Africa by an exporter that the Dutch won't let them send any unless they have a shoot. I'm going to try this neglect system again this year and see if it will stimulate them to grow again. Some never showed any signs of sprouting so I tossed those. Mary Sue