Hi, Since our list is a bit quiet at the moment I'd like to announce that there has been a lot of activity on the wiki lately for those of you who don't watch the recent edits. Below I have listed just some of the new additions. Giorgio has been adding pictures of some interesting Zantedeschia hybrids: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Jay has created some new wiki pages for woodland plants with confused family status. I've tried to explain the various possibilities for them on their wiki pages. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… It is interesting to me that some of the genera that were moved from Liliaceae to Convallariaceae are now considered to belong to Colchicaceae and other are suggested by the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group II to be moved to a broader Asparagaceae or a narrower Ruscaceae. For a non taxonomist who may have once thought she wanted to learn the families I'm not so sure now. Along the way as I was trying to figure all of this for the wiki I learned that some of my native flora has now been renamed so I created a new wiki page for Maianthemum. We have a native Maianthemum that I've known by that name, but it also appears that what I have been calling Smilacina is now accepted by some to be better named Maianthemum. I rather liked the name Smilacina and it is easier for me to pronounce. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… And I learned that my native Disporum has been put into its own genus, Prosartes and only the Asian species are left in Disporum. So I'll be making a Prosartes page when I get around to it. After Jim Waddick asked about hardy Ornithogalums I added some new Southern African Ornithogalum pictures to the wiki: mine, Alan Horstmann's and Cameron McMaster's so a lot of them are habitat pictures. They probably aren't hardy, but interesting just the same. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Ornithogalum concordianum has wonderful coiled leaves. Other new species: Ornithogalum constrictum, O. hispidum and new habitat pictures of O. dubium, O. graminifolium http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… There are new close-up pictures from Alan of O. pruinosum, O. suaveolens, and O. thyrsoides I have some more Ornithogalum pictures to add that we saw almost a year ago now if I figure them out and if I don't figure them out I'll just add them as sp. We saw a number of yellow species with green keels in Namaqualand and the northwest Cape and I don't know if they are all the same species and there were some white ones with green keels too. Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers