pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20
Ben Zonneveld (Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:19:08 PST)
I have growing Canarina from seed some years ago in The Netherlands (not
far from the coast).They flowered after two or three years. Unfortunately,
despite having two different plants they dont flower at precise the same
time so no seed yet. I must try harder. This year they started growing in
late summer, both the plant I kept fully dry in the greenhouse (up to 40
C)as the plant I kept outside and receiving summer rains. In late autumn
/winter/spring I keep them in an unheated room (low temp about 10C, so
frost free)They are now just past flowering.When they start wilting I dont
give any water anymore.
By the way, they might come from cuttings. A young stem broke away from the
tuber (not really a cutting ss) and grew away happily after planting in my
greenhouse (winter temp minimum 5C)
so my receipy: keep them dry in summer and frost free in winter
Ben Zonneveld
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1. Canarina (James Waddick)
2. Re: Canarina (Jane McGary)
3. Re: Canarina (Matt Mattus)
4. Re: Canarina (Lee Poulsen)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:42:22 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
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Subject: [pbs] Canarina
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Dear PBSers,
Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse?
I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers
to share?
How hot can it take it in summer when dormant?
Thanks for input. Best Jim W.
Dr. James Waddick
8871 NW Brostrom Rd
Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
USA
Phone 816-746-1949
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:48:04 -0800
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered,
having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover.
However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta pot
with one drain hole. The tuber plugged the drain hole and then rotted.
So if you grow it, consider that the tuber becomes very large (as far as
I can tell, it doesn't offset) and can easily plug any drainage
openings. If I got one again, I'd plant it directly in the side of my
bulb house that has a raised bed, not in the side that has plunged pots.
I imagine it can take any amount of heat when dormant as long as it
isn't in a plastic pot that is not plunged. If you have to put it in a
free-standing plastic pot, I'd move it into the shade during summer.
Jane McGary
Portland, Oregon, USA
On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote:
Dear PBSers,
Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse?
I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers
to share?
How hot can it take it in summer when dormant?
Thanks for input. Best Jim W.
Dr. James Waddick
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:52:30 -0500
From: Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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I?ve been growing Canarina for three years now in a cold, glass greenhouse
(40? F min.) as a winter growing plant, but have had little luck with it as
I think it just needed to mature a bit.
Not sure if it was too cold, or wet. This year, it emerged with great
vigor and looked promising in its 12 inch clay pot but a couple weeks in
early January (during the N.E. cold ?Bomb Cyclone?) the greenhouse must
have dipped down colder near the glass and it is now frozen. I am guessing
that the roots are still OK, but I am not expecting blossoms this year.
That said, all of the tuberous tropaeolum species survived as did most
plants (aside from a bonsai Jade Plant) which led me to think that the
Canarina was tender.
Matt Mattus
USDA Zone 5B
Worcester, MA USA
On 1/23/18, 4:48 PM, "pbs on behalf of Jane McGary" <pbs-bounces@lists.
pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of janemcgary@earthlink.net> wrote:
I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered,
having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover.
However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta
pot
with one drain hole.
On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote:
Dear PBSers,
Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse?
I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers
to share?
How hot can it take it in summer when dormant?
Thanks for input. Best Jim W.
Dr. James Waddick
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:42:57 -0800
From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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This is another one of those winter growing plants that does not like
radiation frosts on its exposed leaves. Paramongaia weberbaueri is another.
(I now mark those species with their own special label.) The bulb or tuber
doesn?t mind. Being in southern California, I grow these outside, but now I
always place the pots for these under some kind of overhead cover like a
tree with leaves or shade cloth or the overhanging eaves of the house.
I keep it outside all summer as well with my other dormant winter
growers?which is a shaded area. It doesn?t seem to mind any of the hot days
we get here during the summer and they get no water from the time they go
dormant until mid-autumn. They just get larger each year; I just pot them
into larger pots. Otherwise they require very little care.
--Lee Poulsen
Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a
Latitude 34?N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m
On Jan 23, 2018, at 1:52 PM, Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> wrote:
I?ve been growing Canarina for three years now in a cold, glass
greenhouse (40? F min.) as a winter growing plant, but have had little luck
with it as I think it just needed to mature a bit.
Not sure if it was too cold, or wet. This year, it emerged with great
vigor and looked promising in its 12 inch clay pot but a couple weeks in
early January (during the N.E. cold ?Bomb Cyclone?) the greenhouse must
have dipped down colder near the glass and it is now frozen. I am guessing
that the roots are still OK, but I am not expecting blossoms this year.
That said, all of the tuberous tropaeolum species survived as did most
plants (aside from a bonsai Jade Plant) which led me to think that the
Canarina was tender.
Matt Mattus
USDA Zone 5B
Worcester, MA USA
On 1/23/18, 4:48 PM, "pbs on behalf of Jane McGary" <pbs-bounces@lists.
pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of janemcgary@earthlink.net> wrote:
I grew Canarina in my bulb frames at my former place. It flowered,
having survived temperatures down to about 22 degrees F under cover.
However, I had made the mistake of planting it in a large terracotta
pot
with one drain hole.
On 1/23/2018 9:42 AM, James Waddick wrote:
Dear PBSers,
Anyone in a cold/cool climate grow Canarina in their greenhouse?
I have been wondering about growing a plant. Any one have seeds or tubers
to share?
How hot can it take it in summer when dormant?
Thanks for input. Best Jim W.
Dr. James Waddick
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