Such a gorgeous plant. Anyone knows source to C. canariensis seeds ? On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:05 AM, <pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Canarina (Erik Van Lennep) > 2. Re: Canarina (Eugene Zielinski) > 3. Re: Canarina (Pamela Harlow) > 4. Re: Canarina canariensis (oooOIOooo) > 5. Re: Missing E-mails (Lee Poulsen) > 6. Re: Canarina canariensis (Matt Mattus) > 7. Re: Canarina canariensis (James Waddick) > 8. Re: Canarina canariensis (Peter Tallbo) > 9. Re: Canarina canariensis (Erik Van Lennep) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:20:44 +0100 > From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > <CACLJm6ogk8cQnGAQ55-ka4Gs=E=rqGm4o7EpGFRt-=J8s3GWfQ@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights? > > Erik van Lennep > Barcelona, Spain > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:29:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > From: Eugene Zielinski <eez55@earthlink.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > <1485143349.5269.1516897780218@wamui-jasmine.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I received C. canariensis seeds for a commercial source, and they > germinated within a month at warm temperatures (70-75 F; 21-24 C). So, > they are not affected by dry storage and are probably viable for at least > one year. > > Eugene Zielinski > Prescott Valley, Arizona > USA > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> > >Sent: Jan 25, 2018 9:20 AM > >To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > >Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > > > >?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights? > > > >Erik van Lennep > >Barcelona, Spain > >_______________________________________________ > >pbs mailing list > >pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 08:40:10 -0800 > From: Pamela Harlow <pamela@polson.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina > Message-ID: > <CAAghYLAhvNLv9z5YTzHz85oEZ0d62=ixxce==tMhAg6irB2XgA@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Annie's Annuals has Canarina now, $14.95 for a 4" pot. > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> > wrote: > > > ?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights? > > > > Erik van Lennep > > Barcelona, Spain > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:04:02 -0500 > From: oooOIOooo <oooOIOooo@protonmail.ch> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > <VldamBHj_MGr_YsVVnYmB7R1stWNVzGR75JduAl1MtLNF6LYcruWQ_ > 43GQqwfKsGkRUe8OtQaqxIMe27YPkQKctM6QHlRDIkR_FRZHNSius=@protonmail.ch> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:48 -0800 > From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Missing E-mails > Message-ID: <DA12DE4E-B25E-43D1-AA53-CD1D7186D5EA@pacbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Al, > > Thanks for the bulbs! Didn?t know you would send more than one, and > they?re big! I gathered a few items for you last weekend but didn?t get > them sent off, got busy at work, and so they?ve been sitting there. But I > plan to package them and ship them off to you this weekend. > > ?Lee > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 7:23 AM, Albert Stella <amstella1017@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > That?s it?! > > I think I can make that happen. I don?t have any smaller bulbs left but > I can send you a big one if that works? > > Shoot me your mailing address, I?ll have it out by tomorrow. > > > > Al > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:18 AM, David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Fred, > >> > >>> On 16/01/2018 14:15, Fred Biasella wrote: > >>> I don't know if this is happening to anyone else, but for some goofy > reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS. > >> > >> We are involved in an endless struggle against internet suppliers who > block emails from the list. > >> > >> Aol is a frequent offender, but having said that I can't see from the > mail list management console that aol is currently blocking. > >> > >> Yes, you should white list the pbs list, and check in spam folders. > >> > >> The contents of the list appear on the PBS web site, so you can see if > what you get matches what is being sent out. > >> > >> http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php#Archive > >> > >> From that page, you can subscribe to an RSS feed - possibly ancient > technology now but a way of keeping in touch with developments requiring > little effort. > >> > >> We have occasionally suggested to people to open a gmail account, these > seem less prone to block posts and can be set up to forward to one other > email account. > >> > >> The people who block this list, also block "normal" emails, so it's not > an easy problem to fix. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> David Pilling > >> http://www.davidpilling.com/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pbs mailing list > >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:28:11 -0500 > From: Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Cc: oooOIOooo <oooOIOooo@protonmail.ch> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: <B47C3883-8BAA-4E0D-984C-F3536373503F@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > necc. > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > Note this: > > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in > 2010. > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:46:06 -0600 > From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: <55CF8D70-CD7A-4C93-B4ED-3B9900031C67@kc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Dear PBS friends, > > Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous > plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here > where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over > night. Even if dormant. > > My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it > was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny > afternoon. > > Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but > unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping > making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time. > > And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google > search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day. > > Many thanks for all the input and cultural details. > Best Jim W. > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> wrote: > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > necc. > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > Note this: > > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in > 2010. > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > longer. > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > Dr. James Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > USA > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:05:03 +0100 > From: Peter Tallbo <ptallbo@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > <CAE7WdaO8_GYmojewHbYCPPKoF+VjzQSaSmXrp=aQ_daYXySY2A@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > There are seeds available here : > > http://rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp/… > CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1 > > and they are shipping to USA. > > Regards > Peter Tallbo > Sweden > > 2018-01-25 21:46 GMT+01:00 James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>: > > > Dear PBS friends, > > > > Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous > > plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here > > where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over > > night. Even if dormant. > > > > My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it > > was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny > > afternoon. > > > > Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but > > unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping > > making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time. > > > > And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google > > search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day. > > > > Many thanks for all the input and cultural details. > > Best Jim W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> wrote: > > > > I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if > > necc. > > > > Finding Canarina seed can be challenging. > > > > Note this: > > > > Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog > > aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that > > purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from > the > > UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off. > > > > Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M > > remains a different company, shipping only to the EU. > > > > Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed > > and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses, > > Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few > > as well as Audubon Workshop catalog. > > > > Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital > in > > 2010. > > A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and > > attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to > > turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a > > rather different company today than it was 30 years ago. > > > > > > Parks too was bought out by a > > > > On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" < > > pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote: > > > > Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no > > longer. > > > > I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was > > saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold > to > > a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the > > bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a > > fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is > most > > popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the > > spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers > > looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high > > numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory.... > > > > Leo Martin > > Phoenix Arizona USA > > Zone 9? > > > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > Dr. James Waddick > > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd > > Kansas City, MO 64152-2711 > > USA > > Phone 816-746-1949 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:04:56 +0100 > From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis > Message-ID: > <CACLJm6qyoAVJMKpVTsHV6MhnDUV5PiOgiQd53DcbvYgidK51iA@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > ?It also shows up in the seed exchanges for some of the alpine gardening > societies. > > erik? > > ?..........? > > On 25 January 2018 at 22:05, Peter Tallbo <ptallbo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > There are seeds available here : > > > > http://rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp/… > > CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1 > > > > and they are shipping to USA. > > > > Regards > > Peter Tallbo > > Sweden > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 22 > *********************************** > _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…