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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Canarina (Erik Van Lennep)
2. Re: Canarina (Eugene Zielinski)
3. Re: Canarina (Pamela Harlow)
4. Re: Canarina canariensis (oooOIOooo)
5. Re: Missing E-mails (Lee Poulsen)
6. Re: Canarina canariensis (Matt Mattus)
7. Re: Canarina canariensis (James Waddick)
8. Re: Canarina canariensis (Peter Tallbo)
9. Re: Canarina canariensis (Erik Van Lennep)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:20:44 +0100
From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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?I'm curious how long Canarina seeds ?remain viable. Any insights?

Erik van Lennep
Barcelona, Spain

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 09:29:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Eugene Zielinski <eez55@earthlink.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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I received C. canariensis seeds for a commercial source, and they
germinated within a month at warm temperatures (70-75 F; 21-24 C). So,
they are not affected by dry storage and are probably viable for at least
one year.

Eugene Zielinski
Prescott Valley, Arizona
USA

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 08:40:10 -0800
From: Pamela Harlow <pamela@polson.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina
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Annie's Annuals has Canarina now, $14.95 for a 4" pot.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
wrote:

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 13:04:02 -0500
From: oooOIOooo <oooOIOooo@protonmail.ch>
To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net"
<pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
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Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
longer.

I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to
a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most
popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA
Zone 9?

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 10:09:48 -0800
From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Missing E-mails
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Hi Al,

Thanks for the bulbs! Didn?t know you would send more than one, and
they?re big! I gathered a few items for you last weekend but didn?t get
them sent off, got busy at work, and so they?ve been sitting there. But I
plan to package them and ship them off to you this weekend.

?Lee

wrote:

I can send you a big one if that works?

wrote:

reason I am not getting all of the e-mails PBS.

block emails from the list.

mail list management console that aol is currently blocking.

what you get matches what is being sent out.

technology now but a way of keeping in touch with developments requiring
little effort.

seem less prone to block posts and can be set up to forward to one other
email account.

an easy problem to fix.

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:28:11 -0500
From: Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Cc: oooOIOooo <oooOIOooo@protonmail.ch>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
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I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if
necc.

Finding Canarina seed can be challenging.

Note this:

Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog
aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that
purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the
UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off.

Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M
remains a different company, shipping only to the EU.

Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed
and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses,
Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few
as well as Audubon Workshop catalog.

Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in
2010.
A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and
attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to
turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a
rather different company today than it was 30 years ago.

Parks too was bought out by a

On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" <
pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:

Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
longer.

I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to
a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most
popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA
Zone 9?

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:46:06 -0600
From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
Message-ID: <55CF8D70-CD7A-4C93-B4ED-3B9900031C67@kc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Dear PBS friends,

Thanks again for the wide range of commentary on this tuberous
plant. I may have too extreme weather to grow this in the summer here
where we regularly reach 100 F during the day and stay above 80 F over
night. Even if dormant.

My Greenhouse stayts above freezing, but on a day like today it
was in the mid 40s over night and approaching 90 on this mild sunny
afternoon.

Then there?s finding a plant. Yes Annie?s Annuals lists it, but
unlike locals who can drive by, their $15 plant has an added $20 shipping
making it a $35 lottery ticket that sounds less likely all the time.

And finding a plant or seeds is very iffy seeming after a google
search. Maybe it will appear on the Seed x or bulb x one day.

Many thanks for all the input and cultural details.
Best Jim W.

On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Matt Mattus <mmattus@charter.net> wrote:

I know, a bit off topic but worth mentioning. Move to another thread if
necc.

Finding Canarina seed can be challenging.

Note this:

Guerney?s was purchased 2001 by US owned ?Garden?s Alive?, a catalog
aggregator based in Kansas. Gardens Alive is the same company that
purchased the owned the American T&M which they purchased outright from the
UK firm in 2009 when they spun it off.

Gardens Alive have since dissolved the US brand T&M, while the UK T&M
remains a different company, shipping only to the EU.

Worth noting that Garden?s Alive also own a library of other former seed
and nursery companies we were once familiar with including Weeks Roses,
Brecks, Guerney, Henry Fields, Michigan Bulbs, Spring Hill, to name a few
as well as Audubon Workshop catalog.

Park Seed Co. after going bankrupt was purchased by Blackstreet Capital in
2010.
A company that purchases out of favor or underperforming industries and
attempts to turn them around. I can?t imagine that they have been able to
turn around the company, but if they did, I imagine that it would be a
rather different company today than it was 30 years ago.

Parks too was bought out by a

On 1/25/18, 1:04 PM, "pbs on behalf of oooOIOooo via pbs" <
pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net on behalf of
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:

Both Park Seed and Thompson & Morgan used to carry this seed, but no
longer.

I have not visited either company's Web site in several years. I was
saddened to see both declining severely. The US division of T&M was sold to
a catalog aggregator in 2009. The British Web site has a tiny link at the
bottom to the US Web site, which now redirects to Gurney's. Gurney's is a
fine company, but it is targeted at beginning growers who want what is most
popular. Park Seed has cut its inventory, and seems to be headed down the
spiral of only selling what moves fastest, which drives away customers
looking for rarer things, which leads to fewer things selling in high
numbers, which leads to more things being dropped from inventory....

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA
Zone 9?

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8871 NW Brostrom Rd
Kansas City, MO 64152-2711
USA
Phone 816-746-1949

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:05:03 +0100
From: Peter Tallbo <ptallbo@gmail.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
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There are seeds available here :

http://rareplants.es/shop/prodtype.asp/…
CAT_ID=262&numRecordPosition=1

and they are shipping to USA.

Regards
Peter Tallbo
Sweden

2018-01-25 21:46 GMT+01:00 James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com>:

the

in

to

most

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:04:56 +0100
From: Erik Van Lennep <erik@tepuidesign.com>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Canarina canariensis
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?It also shows up in the seed exchanges for some of the alpine gardening
societies.

erik?

?..........?

On 25 January 2018 at 22:05, Peter Tallbo <ptallbo@gmail.com> wrote:

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