Thank you for this very helpful advice, Mike. It's not like I need a plethora of 'Orange Crush' but I will try your various suggestions as a learning experience. Yesterday I was off for a Designed for Nature Garden tour in Doylestown PA (managed to visit 3 of 5 gardens before my knee gave out.) Today I'll cut some leafy top shoots, trim off leaves, dip in rooting hormone and place in peat/sand mix in a plastic shoe box with bottom heat. The tuberous roots look more vertical than lumpy. For winter storage I usually unpot and pack in peat moss, orienting vertically. The "vintage" M. longiflora I just use a hand truck to wheel the pot into the basement. It's roots, when I infrequently top dress, are a gnarly mass but it is an old plant. Seedlings pop up in anything adjacent to where the mirabilis spent their summers but as there are 3 cultivars it is only 'Limelight' I can distinguish, from its chartreuse leaf color. Judy in New Jersey where the day is sunny and deliciously cool, with barely a breeze to stir the trees A question for David - since I had posted my query in both the list and the forum I will copy this answer likewise. What is the preferred behavior - is to both acceptable or only one? -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus/ _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… Unsubscribe: <mailto:pbs-unsubscribe@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> PBS Forum https://…